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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    Heb 12: 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? Hebrews 12:6 6 For whom the Lord loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives.”
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    There is a mystery to godliness and what God is attracted to in us. It's an intangible that people can't really quantify because of our nature to destroy or ruin everything we try our hands at. So if we think we see something...we are more likely to get it wrong...since we tend to reason with...
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    I think Jesus was speaking of the miraculous faith OF Jesus. The kind of faith that moves God to do the impossible.
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    I am defining faith as per Jesus' definition...the faith that does the works of Jesus. Moving mountains and such.
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    There are no human words for the true connection with God. There's nothing really to compare that to. The miraculous realm of the Spirit is there. Few will experience it and be able to remain there. And most people today no longer believe in anything they have not already experienced. Faith...
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    There is a a kind of attitude and spirit that defends itself as righteous even while claiming that all righteousness is as filthy rags....by self-serving human beliefs that justifies their sins and causes them to judge others who sin less than they...but without the self-serving and...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    God's judgments are beyond our reasoning. This isn't about saved or unsaved...those are human labels. This is about fitting in with God's will or not. If we claim to be holy and saved then we will be judged against the perfection of Christ. But if we are humble and claim nothing for...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    Actually no...outer darkness is eternal...a different destiny. You might have to expand your old way of thinking to grasp this. Read Jude.
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    That cuts both ways...read Romans 2. They who do what is right are deemed righteous whether they know God or not. God judges us fairly. Righteous is as righteous does.
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    Wisdom says that we should learn from the mistake of others. The present day sons of the kingdom are Christians....same sins...same outcome.
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    That is about maturity...learning to remain in the grace of God. We can only stay in the Spirit as long as we love none other than God. So then our maturity is to love as God loves. This is about righteousness not holiness. There is no sin in holiness...so then no need for more forgiveness...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    Again..you are speaking of a different level of walk than what I'm speaking of and what the bible attests to. Certainly very few will be able to walk IN Christ...to walk as He walked. Most people will follow Christ and avoid the deadly sins...as you attest to. But that doesn't change the truth...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    1 Corinthians 1:25 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. God has chosen the way of weakness to confound the futility of human strength and brain power.
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    The weakness of God is greater than the strength of men. You need a lot of instruction if you are going to sort out who is God and who is the devil. Of course you are not going to believe that the devil took control of the world through sin...when Satan took control through subverting Adam...so...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    Outer darkness is eternal...and people actually live there...for ever. (unlike hell where people perish) Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    It isn't just Jesus Christ who takes on the sins of the world...so do His followers. They are hated for His name's sake. And in this is a great reward. Hated in this life...beloved in heaven. Jesus purchased the world back from the devil in order to give us choices. To turn from evil and do...
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    That's not hell fire...there is more than one kind of punishment. Otherwise how could Sodom fare better than Capernaum and Bethsaida? Outer darkness is not hell fire.
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    Wishful thinking and truth don't mix. God will add to the troubles of they who add to His words.
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    Penal Substitution Theory and the presupposed (eisegesis) definition of מוּסָר in Isaiah 53:5

    12 Then He began to speak to them in parables: “A man planted a vineyard, put a fence around it, dug out a pit for a winepress, and built a watchtower. Then he leased it to tenant farmers and went away. 2 At harvest time he sent a slave to the farmers to collect some of the fruit of the...