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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study

    Peter said Jesus was seated on David's throne by way of His resurrection. You should listen to Peter. Acts 2:29 “Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    You have the firstfruits being gathered after the Church. That makes no sense. You obviously don't even know what the term "firstfruits" means. If there were two separate groups of God's people that will be gathered, which there are not, the firstfruits would be the first group, not the second.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    You don't read scripture carefully enough. The woman is not national Israel, as you believe. The woman is spiritual Israel. The woman's children are identified as Jesus Himself and those who follow Him. Revelation 12:5 She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study

    Then he is taking those verses completely out of context. The context of 2 Peter 3:8 is in relation to how long it is taking Jesus to return, not in relation to the duration of the day of the Lord. 2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    WHAT????? CHURCH FATHERS WERE PRETRIB ???

    I couldn't care less that you disagree. That means literally nothing to me. I know the truth about this and certainly don't need you to teach it to me. Your claim is false. What is recorded in John 2:19-22 did not occur on the same occasion as Matthew 24:1-2. That is a fact. You are being...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Overview time line chart of the 7 years

    That's my conclusion based on what I see taught in scripture. It's implied. Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus is bringing us to heaven after we meet Him in the air? Nowhere. That's what you conclude based on how you interpret other scripture. So, we both are coming to our conclusions...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 20:1-15 & the 1,000 years (aka Millennium) Bible Study

    Stop right there. Where are you getting the idea from that the day of the Lord is the thousand years? Show that with scripture. Where is this coming from? Don't share your theories with me if you don't have scripture to back them up. I'm not interested in that. Yes, and then the judgment...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    Total nonsense. Your inability to differentiate between the verses that speak of physical destruction and those that speak of what happens at the judgment is your downfall. Your belief in the false doctrine of soul sleep tells me that I can't take you seriously. So, I won't.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Fake Pretrib claims re the early Church fathers

    LOL. Nothing but foolishness from you. You aren't worth anyone's time. So many words from you without saying anything. You misinterpret every single verse that you come across. You have ZERO spiritual discernment. Absolutely NONE. You just ramble on and on and on without saying anything at all...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Fake Pretrib claims re the early Church fathers

    What a load of garbage. You have nothing of substance to offer. Nothing but indecipherable, rambling gibberish from you. Your carnal mind has deceived you into thinking you think spiritually, which you clearly do not. All you can do is ramble on and on about different types of believers without...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Fake Pretrib claims re the early Church fathers

    I reject nothing but your false claims that you utterly fail to back up with any kind of coherent argument using scripture. Here is the wrath that we will escape when the rapture occurs since there will be no other way to escape because of it affecting literally the entire earth... 2 Peter...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Fake Pretrib claims re the early Church fathers

    I'm talking about those who have true faith in Christ as their personal Lord and Savior. They are in Christ. Any other type of faith/belief is meaningless. Even the demons believe and tremble. No kidding. Hello? Any other kind of "believers" are not true believers, so stop trying to make things...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Overview time line chart of the 7 years

    I explained what I had a problem with in your view and it's not that you see Jesus circling the earth to meet believers in the air. I made it clear that my problem with your view is the idea that we will then be taken to heaven. If we were going to heaven then we would just be taken directly...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Fake Pretrib claims re the early Church fathers

    What question that wasn't a dumb question did I not answer? I can answer any question you have that isn't dumb and pointless like asking me if I'm still without understanding when I was not without understanding in the first place. You cannot defend your doctrine with a coherent argument using...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Fake Pretrib claims re the early Church fathers

    Nonsense! No believers will experience the wrath of the Lamb. That is possibly the most ridiculous statement I've ever seen. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ No believers is ever appointed to God's wrath. Your...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Fake Pretrib claims re the early Church fathers

    Of course. Hello? Are you even reading what I'm saying? I've said multiple times that believers will not experience God's wrath. What don't you understand about that straightforward statement? God is fully capable of protecting His people when bringing wrath upon unbelievers. He has done it...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Fake Pretrib claims re the early Church fathers

    You are incapable of explaining how pre-trib makes any sense in a way that anyone can understand. All you do is foolishly try to misrepresent post-tribs by making it look as if we believe that Christians will experience God's wrath, which we do not.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    WHAT????? CHURCH FATHERS WERE PRETRIB ???

    Were my questions in post #104 too difficult for you? Why didn't you answer them? Are you not confident enough in what you believe to answer straightforward questions? I'll try again. When Jesus said "Do you not see all these things?" in Matthew 24:2, do you think He was referring to His body...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Overview time line chart of the 7 years

    I'm not saying that He won't gather Christians from around the world. I'm saying He won't then take them to heaven. If we were going to heaven then He would just have us taken there directly without having to meet us in the air for no apparent reason first. Your doctrine that says we will be...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Overview time line chart of the 7 years

    You continue to not answer the question. Why would He need to leave heaven and have us gathered to meet Him in the air first before taking us to heaven when we could just be gathered directly to heaven instead if that's where we were going to end up? That makes no sense. The reason that He will...