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@FluffyYellowDuck Part of the background is that Jews would often look for signs and symbolism; whereas believers in the Gospel from a Gentile background might not necessarily do so to the same extent...

@Taken Sounds like you know quite a bit about animals (I myself am not into animals at all.....)

@Taken Scripture does say plenty about it....

@Taken So does he or she - because of such incidences - seem like he or she is getting uncomfortable in his or her profession as a tattoo artist? (I do take the point about not getting tattooed while drunk...)

@Taken Reminds me of the saying, Fools rush in, where angels fear to tread.... It's good to have zeal; but zeal tempered with knowledge and experience...

@Taken Romans 8.38-39 is very clear, indeed...

We need to be justified by faith (Romans 5.1), thus depending on the finished work of Christ at the Cross.

"And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life." (Revelation 21.27)

@Heart2Soul Strong's ref.s are useful........

Hi @Mayflower Do you know what happened to @Ziggy? not seen her around lately.......

One falls away from a profession of faith that one once may have had. But the true believers are saved for eternity: John 10.28-30: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater...

@Marvelloustime What a promise indeed! and so, with the victory assured (1 Corinthians 15.57), we can press on steadfastly, always abounding in the work of the Lord...(1 Corinthians 15.58)..... :) I do love these Bible verses.....

In the end, our trust is on the basis of Job 13.15: "Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him"....

@Oceanprayers I think you would like this one:

@Oceanprayers Sorry the poll already closed on this thread...

(Replied on the other thread...)

I'm not too clear, either, as to what was meant...

I think the point is that an apostate never truly believed, although gave the appearance of doing so. An apostate by definition has light but not life.

Seems like she would be really glad she had it done just in time, then.....

I don't think we can just explain away hell, though...