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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    The Bible does say that the earth is round. Isaiah 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    You seem to misinterpret every verse you read. You really need to ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7). If you continue reading from there you will see a description of Christ's transfiguration. That is what He was referring to when He said some there would not taste death before seeing the kingdom...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    LOL. I was childish for being the adult who pointed out your childishness? Okay, sure. That isn't talking about Jerusalem, as you probably think. Jesus was not crucified in Jerusalem. Hebrews 13:12 Therefore Jesus also, that He might [a]sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered outside...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    You need to learn to interpret scripture with scripture. Look at verse 6 in particular there. It says that those who have part in the first resurrection are "blessed and holy" and that the second death has no power over them. And it says that they are "priests of God and of Christ" and reign...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    He makes no effort at all to exegete any scripture or to defend his doctrine. He is clearly unwilling to make any effort to address any challenges we give to his beliefs or to make any attempt to show how scripture supports his views. He thinks he can just make a couple scripture references and...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    This is pure laziness on your part. I guess you just have no interest in actually making any effort to support your doctrine, which means we can't take you seriously at all. Which I already knew. You don't know the difference between pre-trib and premill? Have you never heard of post-trib? Do...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Unlike Amillennialism, Premillennialism is based on assumptions and speculation rather than on any clear, straightforward scriptures

    Your Satanic accusations of blasphemy against us when we are not blaspheming anyone show that you have completely lost it and are allowing Satan to wickedly influence your mind. I would never talk about Premils the way you talk about us. Being Amil or Premil is not the determining factor in...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Unlike Amillennialism, Premillennialism is based on assumptions and speculation rather than on any clear, straightforward scriptures

    LOL. I have adjusted nothing. My understanding of the beast and of Revelation 20 lines up with the rest of scripture, unlike yours. How about you tell me your understanding of the beast instead of just spewing your usual nonsense? Where in Revelation 20 does it say that they are beheaded by...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Unlike Amillennialism, Premillennialism is based on assumptions and speculation rather than on any clear, straightforward scriptures

    He has completely lost his mind and his ability to reason. How are we blaspheming when we are the ones who are constantly exalting Christ as the King of kings and Lord of lords right now in His position at the right hand of the Father "far above all principality and power and might and dominion...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    No, not really. I know it's an utter waste of time trying to reason with someone like you. And you know we are not able to discuss these things. We already have proven that multiple times when trying to discuss scripture. It appears to me that you have no idea of what you're talking about and...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Sorry, but I can't understand what you're trying to say here. Doesn't it make more sense that the time periods would either all be literal or all symbolic? I think so. Like Premills, Amills don't agree on everything. That is the case here as well. What someone thinks about the mark of the beast...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    In my opinion, there isn't. Well, I think we are discovering once again that talking to each other is a complete waste of time. Which is something we already discovered months ago. I guess you forgot. Yawn. Because there wasn't. Hello? I brought up secular history only because we all use...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    No, I didn't realize it was you. Now that you mention it, I can easily see that. Well, I guess I'm more consistent than them because I believe both time periods are symbolic. I don't think it's consistent or makes any sense to see one as literal and one as symbolic. I believe all of the time...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    You can read. I didn't stutter. There are none that talk about a literal soon, near coming of Christ from the human perspective. That is your false interpretation of those verses. No, I rely on scripture. I'm just pointing out that there is also no historical evidence of that, either. Why...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    This is very similar to what happened with me except it looks like you were pre-trib and I was post-trib Premil. I was a Premil pretty much entirely based on my assumption that Revelation 19-20 was chronological. I couldn't make any sense of Revelation 20, but I figured it must be true and just...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Amills often are accused by Premills of over-spiritualizing scripture, but the fact of the matter is that Amill is based on clear, straightforward scriptures that we use to help understand more difficult scriptures. You can read my first 2 posts in the following thread to get an idea of what I...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    You, too, are missing the difference between the two statements I made. And I know it's because you two don't like me because of my disdain for your false preterist doctrine and you wish so badly to be able to say "Gotcha!" to me. Keep trying. In one case, there is no historical or scientific...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    LOL. I get my truth from scripture, of course. Nice try, but you're not comparing like things here. There is no evidence in scripture, science or any historical records of Jesus returning in 70 AD with a resurrection of the dead in Christ and gathering of the elect occurring at that time. There...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I actually agree that it's the surface of the earth that will be burned up rather than the earth being completely annihilated by fire, but why do you try to claim that the elements are not material elements that will be literally dissolved by fire when you do acknowledge that it's talking about...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    This is shameful stuff. Please get out of here with your pagan, secular science influenced nonsense that denies the truth of holy scripture. The flood of Noah's day was clearly global and there is absolutely nothing in the text in 2 Peter 3 to suggest that Peter was being anything but literal in...