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It is true and we have proven that over and over and over again. Tell me, which scenario is consistent. 1) To see all of the time periods in the book of Revelation as either all being literal or all being symbolic. or 2) To see most of them as being literal and maybe one of them as being...

It seems that you are the one ignoring what Jesus said that relates to Revelation 6:12-17. Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be...

So, you think that the following passage, which references Psalm 2:8-9 in verse 15, is about Christ's death, resurrection and ascension? Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge...

Agree. It's interesting how Premills often accuse Amills of spiritualizing everything when the reality is that our doctrine is primarily based on literal, straightforward scriptures such as these that you quoted here which do not allow for an earthly millennial kingdom following Christ's return...

Do you not see any relation between the first few verses of Psalm 2 and Psalm 2:7-9? Do you think Psalm 2:7-9 is about the crucifixion, too?

Right. It would not be a resurrection if it's not their old bodies that are resurrected. It says the dead will be resurrected. What else will be resurrected except for their dead bodies? Their dead bodies will be resurrected and then instantly changed to be incorruptible and immortal and then...

They were not. Only in your mind. It's a complete waste of time trying to discuss something with someone like you who has no idea how to communicate.

Right. When we keep reading from there it shows how Christ will one day destroy the heathen with His rod of iron.

LOL. You have to be kidding me with this argument. You think grandchildren don't weep when their grandparents die just because they were old? That's nonsense. Children of old parents cry when their parents die no matter how old they are. You are not honest enough to acknowledge the contradiction...

Learn how to read. The argument is that He will not rule on the earth for a thousand years after He returns. And the argument is that those who Premills think Jesus will reign over will instead be destroyed when He comes again.

Haha. That's a good one that they come up with. So, to them, somehow the following verses are not speaking of the same kingdom: Matthew 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. 12 But...

I believe the seals occur in order, too. I just happen to believe that while the seals are happening in order, the trumpets and vials are happening concurrently. Oh well. Yet, you have said before you see parallels in the book, haven't you? If so, I don't see why you can't even fathom how the...

I have a question for you. Do you believe that Jesus will return at the end of the age? I'll let you know why I'm asking it after you answer the question.

Absolutely none, as you know. Premills like to read things into verses that are not there. Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world. Period. He did NOT say His kingdom is not of this world for now, but one day it will be. No. That would be like when He said He and His followers are not of...

So, you won't even apologize for the way you talked to me for no good reason by falsely accusing me of ignoring things that you now know that I did not ignore at all? Don't you know me better than that by now? I ignore NOTHING. If I talked to you the way you talked to me and then found out that...

Of course I'm not happy with your false statement. You are apparently too afraid to address what I said about the similarities between Isaiah 65:17-19 and Revelation 21:1-4. Why is that? You don't think you need to address why it is that you believe Isaiah 65:20 is talking about death occurring...

I have told you that already several times. I believe that the seals, trumpets and vials are parallel to each other. I believe there is silence in heaven at the 7th seal because heaven is empty at that point as Jesus, the souls of the dead in Christ, and Christ's angels have all left heaven at...

What is with all you children on here? You're unable to even have an adult discussion. You have never learned how to read or communicate. Where does it talk in scripture about believers and converted believers? You are the one who brought that up, so tell me where you are getting that from in...

Goodness sakes, are you for real? We're talking about the gathering of the elect here, not a lesson on what the atmosphere is. LOL. You're trying to distract attention away from how your doctrine does not support the gathering of the elect from the earth after the tribulation. Jesus said the...