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So much for your claim that all the time periods in Revelation are literal. I guess you forgot this one when you said that? Somehow those time periods have to be literal, but the one hour of Revelation 17:12 doesn't. This is typical of how Premills are not consistent in their approach to...

I couldn't disagree more. That's the wrong approach to interpreting the book. We must start with clear, straightforward scripture to establish doctrine and then interpret more difficult scripture, such as the book of Revelation, according to that foundation. If you start with Revelation, then...

I'm still not clear on what you're saying. Do you believe that 1 Corinthians 15:50-53 will be fulfilled when Jesus comes in the future when the last trumpet sounds or do you believe it is fulfilled each time that a believer dies physically? It seemed like you were saying you see it as having the...

BRETHREN IN CHRIST: This evil liar Davy neglected to quote what I said at the beginning of the original post in that thread, which was this: As you can see, I did NOT say that all Premills deny that 1 Thess 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event. But, this guy has no conscience...

LOL. You can't be taken seriously even a tiny bit when you say nonsense like this. Tell me exactly how the elect will be gathered from the earth's atmosphere? Who are the elect that hang out in the earth's atmosphere that the angels will be gathering? LOL. Such nonsense. LOL. What is your point...

This is not taught anywhere in scripture. Nowhere does scripture speak of "believers" and "Converted Believers", whatever that even means. You speak nothing but gibberish and you can't be "Taken" seriously at all.

I don't think it's just you who is confused about what he is saying. Your view is a bit confusing, also. It would be helpful, not just to me, but I'm sure to rwb as well, if you could tell us how you interpret these passages... 2 Corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that...

It's interesting that despite your big disagreement with him, you're still willing to talk to him about these things. But, somehow, because of our big disagreement, you don't want to talk to me about it. Oh, well. Only you know the reason for that. It does appear that you guys know each...

Yes, I did. You referenced Joel 2 and Acts 2 and so did I. Did he say they were previously in the bottomless pit? Did you not say that you believe Abaddon is Satan? Satan is not the king of those who came upon Jerusalem, he is the king of the fallen angels. That's why it says they are his...

I mostly agree with what you're saying here, except I'm wondering why you are referencing 1 Corinthians 15:50 in the context of being absent from the body and present with the Lord? That verse relates to us being changed to have incorruptible and immortal bodies at the last trumpet when Jesus...

LOL. Yes, I get a bit emotional when people like you act like only they understand the truth and have to correct literally everyone else. Paul was very clear that the dead in Christ will be resurrected at Jesus's second coming and He does not come individually for each person as you falsely...

You don't speak for all Premills. And, if you actually read the original post you would see that I said most Premills do not believe those two passages are about the same event. So, I didn't say all Premils don't. Trust me, I've seen the interpretations of 2 Peter 3:10-12 of many Premills and...

Do we have to agree on everything in order to discuss scripture? That doesn't stop anyone else on this forum from discussing things with each other. Why is it that you don't even want to address what I said about Ecclesiastes 9:5? Are you able to refute what I said? Have you ever studied the...

What would that clear up exactly? Can you not answer my question? You said this: I asked you when any Amil ever said this. So, what is your answer to that question? Never? If so, then why did you say what you did? Whether I can find a place where it means exactly a thousand or not is...

How interesting for you to say that it doesn't have to mean it's literally bottomless. If you allow for that, then just take it a step further and realize that it doesn't have to refer to a literal place at all, let alone a place that is literally bottomless.

Let's say it is a literal place of some kind. What we should not do is assume that such a place is no different than a physical place on earth. Like you said, we are not familiar with the spirit realm. We can't see it and we should not pretend to know exactly what it's like because we don't. We...

Ah, yes, the go to verse of those who believe in soul sleep. And, naturally, you can't both believe in soul sleep and believe in Amillennialism since Amills believe that the souls of the dead in Christ reign in heaven with Jesus. How close have you looked at the context of that verse...

Tell me how non-literal entities like the beast and the locusts can be imprisoned in a literal place. That is correct, at least in terms of it being a literal lake of fire. Unless you think death can be cast into a literal lake of fire somehow (Rev 20:14)? Whatever it represents, it has to do...

Peter indicated that he was living in the last days and the last days are still going on now since they represent the time period during which people call on the name of the Lord and are saved and have the Holy Spirit poured out on them (Joel 2:28-32, Acts 2:16-21). The last days will end when...

Oh, yes, you are the Chosen One to correct everyone else. Get out of here with your nonsense. That verse you referenced is not referring to the thief's bodily resurrection. It's referring to his soul and spirit going to paradise. I take it you believe in soul sleep? That would explain a lot...