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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Can you tell me which scriptures you are talking about here exactly? Are you talking about the resurrection of the dead who are saved and the resurection of the dead who are lost? How about we get some help from Jesus to determine the timing of the resurrection of the saved and the resurrection...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Amen, bro. That really sums up the difference in the methods of interpretation that Amills use compared to what Premills use. We are far more consistent with our approach to interpreting the text. We don't just say one time period in Revelation is literal and the rest are symbolic the way they...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Yeah, I see what you're saying here. Well, one obvious mistake they are making is isolating themselves to just looking at those 2 books when they should be looking at all of scripture and making sure that their interpretations of Daniel line up with all of scripture instead of thinking that the...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Or maybe you're losing just a little sleep over it since you wanted to address him, but you can't? I'm kidding. Yeah, because that means he can't see your posts. That's why I don't like to put people on my ignore list and I instead talk to the person and try to get them to agree not to talk to...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    John 18:36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.” Was Jesus saying here that His kingdom which existed at that time but was not of this world (not a worldly, earthly...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Hmmm. We'll see... I would argue that everything labeled 1) fits neither A) nor B). I also would like to point out that 1 Thessalonians 4:16 has nothing to do with the first resurrection as you are trying to claim, but instead has to do with the fact that before being caught up to meet Christ...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Right. That is exactly what Paul taught here. 1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    No. Why are you asking me that? I told you that I agree that the tribulation of those days is not God's wrath and I believe Jesus returns after the tribulation of those days as He said Himself in Matthew 24:29-31 (Mark 13:24-27). How does that make me post-wrath? It makes me post-trib with the...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    I agree. I have said this many times before, but I believe there is no new doctrine introduced in the book of Revelation that we can't find taught anywhere else in the Bible. I have responded to that, but I think it was in a different thread than this one where you posted the same thing. Edit...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Right. We are in His kingdom now and He reigns now. Colossians 1:12 and giving joyful thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of his holy people in the kingdom of light. 13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    Who are you to tell me that I don't know what converted means? Of course. Hello? I didn't say otherwise. I agree with this, yet you are trying to tell me I don't know what it means? You cannot be "Taken" seriously. LOL. I'm not wasting any more time on your nonsense.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Zechariah 14 and the Jerusalem meant in verse 2 vs the one meant in verse 11.

    Which proves absolutely nothing as it relates to the thousand years referenced in the most highly symbolic book in the entire Bible.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Zechariah 14 and the Jerusalem meant in verse 2 vs the one meant in verse 11.

    The word for thousand in Greek can be used figuratively just as it can in Hebrew. To try to act as if the Greek word somehow can't be used figuratively is as dishonest as someone can possibly be.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    I know how someone is converted. Show me where scripture talks about believers and contrasts them with converted believers. How does this contrast believers with converted believers? It's talking about sinners being converted. They're not converted until they believe. You make no sense. I can...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    How long do you believe the "one hour" of Revelation 17:12 is in reality? You said you don't believe it's a literal hour (60 minutes). Should we rant at you and ask how anyone in their right mind can deny that "one hour" is a literal hour?
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    I agree with this, but what I'm saying is that we should already have an established doctrine based on other more clear scripture even before attempting to interpret more difficult passages such as Revelation 20. Well, maybe to some extent, but Daniel is an undeniably difficult book to...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Here's something we can agree on. He repeatedly misrepresents what others believe and then claims that he has refuted their beliefs. No, he has refuted his imaginary straw man's beliefs which means nothing.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Agree, other than the one year wrath of God thing (we don't need to go into that again, so please don't bother). These discussions become pointless when people use different definitions for terms such as "tribulation". The tribulation that occurs before Jesus returns relates to persecution, a...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Everyone, look at what this guy does. He tries to change scripture. He says "like manner" doesn't really mean "like manner". What a joke. I hope you know that no one here takes you seriously at all because of nonsense like this. Why can't He bring their souls and spirits with Him? You just say...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    I don't know what "today's accepted interpretations" means. There are many different interpretations of Daniel and Revelation today just as there always has been. I was not doing that in my responses to you. Yes, I was not doing anything like that in our discussion up to the point when you...