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There is your OSAS. Not in those words but in other words he did. Not all who call him Lord, Lord will be saved. This contradicts your OSAS. Paul? It most certainly IS what Jesus said you'd lose. See above. Also reference to vines not producing fruit being burned. Also reference salt being...

It seems that you have such a tattoo. Guess what? Not calling OSAS by name does not make what you are advancing something else.

Yes. Scripture is not God to be worshipped.

That's because there is no such thing as this. So, I don't struggle, I reject it out of hand. The 2 manifestations are due to TWO things being manifested. Your thinking is so corrupted, you assert antonyms are synonyms.

There is no but. These Scriptures reinforce my point. The point about hope is not to have hope in what is false but what is true. False hope is reliance on our capacity to pick ourselves up by our own boot straps. True hope rests in God's suffering servant, by whom many are saved.

What I love about your posts lately is how profoundly insightful they are in just a few words. Bravo! Bravo, dear sister!

That's a tough question you ask. I've concluded the purpose of the OT is to afford us the opportunity to attempt to meet the divine standard on our own. It was for us, in God's infinite mercy and love, to allow us to go it alone. Only after millenia of failure, when all rational hope was...

I would have bet my life that you'd come back with this OSAS nonsense. The passage specifically talks about those who KNOW the truth, which means were born again. But we all know that you can not acknowledge that for your doctrine's obliteration would result. And I do believe @marks brought up...

Even in your weak defense, you admit Differentia, 2 different halves - not the same half of the same thing. We obviously diagree. While eastern philosophies like Tao advocate what you do, Christianity rejects the intrinsic necessity of darkness, wrong and evil to exist. What's more Christianity...

This reminds me of a time my father tried to instigate a fight in my home between me and my teenage stepdaughters. He thought I should put a 5-minute timer on the shower head. When I asked him why he thought U should do this, he answered ‘efficiency.’ I retorted that I’m not guided or driven...

Can't answer my question. This tells me this thread is about OSAS. Projecting onto @Michiah-Imla what you, yourself, are guilty of, dodging. More projecting.

You're playing word games now. A miscarriage is not a chosen outcome.

I'm a little confused by the wording of this sentence. As I understand @Michiah-Imla's position, he has not sinned in the last decade. Now, we can debate the truth of this but that is secondary. He is claiming he has not sinned. It stands to reason that IF this is true, he would not confess to...

I thought we weren't supposed to talk about this anymore. Did I miss a rule change?

I'm not as knowledgable about bread as I am about wine. As far as I know, bread normally contains yeast. Again, by definition, normally or usually allows for instances where it lacks this attribute. This is why, when yeast is to be excluded in the Bible, it explicitly calls one to make...

There is only one type of wine and that is fermented. To claim otherwise is to play word games, to call things by their improper names. Grape juice is not wine.

Welcome. What brings you to CyB?

Since 12 has nothing to do with the OP, there is no real difference. I only invoked 'the 12' as a comparison of a number referring to numerous 12s. Having said that, the OP exclusively refers to the text of Revelation. How in the world do you support the idea that text in another book...

Of course. Still, I only see claims it is evident as opposed to an actual citation of the evidence.

You guys are killing me. Revelation 21:12 Contemporary English Version 12 The city had a high and thick wall with twelve gates, and each one of them was guarded by an angel. On each of the gates was written the name of one of the twelve tribes of Israel.