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  1. Wrangler

    Who/What is Jesus if not God?

    No, you are not. If you were, you would read and not make derailing type posts. See post #33. It is another question that perhaps could be explored more in another thread. I asked my Bible Study leader a variation. Why did Jesus have to come when the OT said people had the Spirit of God...
  2. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    Until is false, a trinitarian invention not found in Scripture. In fact it contradicts Scripture The Father, who alone is God, does not say he has a God. Jesus says he has a God. Do you recognize that?
  3. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    I see where you are going. Trinitarianism is Earthly. Unitarianism is Spiritual and Biblical, consistent with definition, logic and language usage.
  4. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    Are you aware that you replaced the Father in my post with God? You changed the reference point and then claim there's no dispute. Very intellectually dishonest. I'll pray for you. What is your purpose in posting in this thread, since it is not asking for an apology of trinitarianism? You seem...
  5. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    Apparently you do.
  6. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    Figurative use of language that God's word is God. Kind of like Emperor Palpatine saying he is the Senate.
  7. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    A common trinitarian tactic is to always change the subject. There are always supposedly 'other' verses that 'support' their doctrine. We were talking about how John 1:1 is about God not Jesus. I'm not going to chase your tail.
  8. Wrangler

    My Life Was Just a Loaf of Bread

    Good to hear. I've always believed in the BODY-MIND-SPIRIT triangle of priorities. I suppose this sets me apart from mystics who have it upside down. You've been on my mind and I hope you are doing well.
  9. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    Well, nonsense is unfathomable. Said differently, this is THE insult I have heard for decades, pretending the only reason one rejects the claim is because one does not understand the claim. I understand the trinitarian claim. I reject the trinitarian claim. How did Jesus teach us to pray? As a...
  10. Wrangler

    My Life Was Just a Loaf of Bread

    Sometimes I feel like Jesus on the cross when he said, "Forgive them Father, for the know not what they do." Some people, in ignorance, though well intending, make matters worse. If you PM me your address, I'll send you some food.
  11. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    You mean like, Jesus not being God?
  12. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    Proving again that the Father is the giver, Yahweh, God alone.
  13. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    That's a big league assumption on a verse or 2 there that does not offset the 1,000's of times God is referred to using singular pronouns.
  14. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    Words are WHAT's not WHO's.
  15. Wrangler

    Who is Jesus to a Non-Trinitarian?

    Yes, God - not Jesus. Jesus does not show up until v14.
  16. Wrangler

    Who/What is Jesus if not God?

    You are attempting to hijack the thread, in apologizing for what is not requested.
  17. Wrangler

    Who/What is Jesus if not God?

    But you are in the know, eh? You know the things of God that directly go against Scripture. It's OK, my friend. I'll rely on how the Holy Spirit leads me in alignment with Scripture, definition, logic and language usage.
  18. Wrangler

    Who/What is Jesus if not God?

    Again, both sides can make that claim but only one side has Scripture, definition, logic and language usage on its side. And that begs the question, why are you posting in this thread - other than to derail it from answering What is Jesus if not God?
  19. Wrangler

    feeling low

    You bet. Would it help to talk about what's making you feel low in spirit? This is a loving, safe community if you want to share your burden. John 14:1 Don't let your heart be troubled. John 16:33 I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many...
  20. Wrangler

    Who/What is Jesus if not God?

    Appeal to Ignorance. You cannot logically show how trinitarianism makes any sense but somehow, assert it is true nonetheless in violation of Mark 7:13 and Acts 17:31 emphasizes that God selected this man. If Jesus were any kind or part of God, such an absurd verse meaning ‘God selected a man...