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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That's from the King James Version. The Greek word is "aion" and I think "age" is a better translation of the word. But, Jesus taught that the current age is the temporal age during which people get married and they die and the age to come is an eternal age that will arrive upon the resurrection...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, many pretribbers believe that the rapture will occur, followed by a seven year period of tribulation followed by a third coming of Christ. The rapture itself is a "coming of the Lord" as Paul indicates in 1 Thess 4:15, so pretribbers believe in a future second and third coming of Christ...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    Exactly. But, those who make scripture say what they want it to say deny the obvious fact that Luke 21:20-24a is a parallel passage to Matthew 24:15-22 and Mark 13:14-20. Jesus did NOT say "let those in Judea flee to the mountains" and "woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    You ignore the fact that what spawned the Olivet Discourse in the first place was Jesus telling the disciples that the temple standing at that time would be destroyed. So, it should be obvious that when He referenced a prophecy made by Daniel it would be one that related to the destruction of...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is a big reason why this Amil vs. Premil debate is important. If they don't undertsand that Jesus has power and authority over all things now and that Satan and his angels MUST back down and flee from us because of the Spirit of Christ living in us, then they are not understanding what is...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Exactly. Premils take so many OT prophecies out of context and don't allow the NT to interpret those OT prophecies for them. They try to make everything in the OT about a literal thousand years after Christ returns. It's truly ridiculous. Notice how he only referenced Isaiah 65:18-25 and not...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    He foolishly thought Satan being bound long ago was absurd because he is too lazy to study scripture beyond the surface. But, scripture is clear that Jesus bound Satan long ago. It specifically teaches that Jesus bound the strong man, representing Satan, and spoiled his house! Jesus came to...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Nonsense. Such a temple would never be called "the temple of God" in scripture. Paul would not call it "the temple of God" unless God Himself would call it His temple. You are sadly mistaken. Nonsense! This is a complete insult to the "once for all" sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross which...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Getting straightforward answers from some of these people is like pulling teeth. They can't answer simple questions. That says it all.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. Ridiculous. You got caught in a contradiction and now you're trying to backpedal. Unbelievable. You are constantly trying to make scripture say what you want it to say. You can't be taken seriously.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It's not referring to his general ability to deceive, but rather his ability to keep "the power of death" that he used to keep the people of the world as slaves to the fear of death in OT times. Jesus took the power of death away from Him with His death on the cross (Heb 2:14-15). The world was...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL!!!!!! It does not expire, but gets ended? LOL!!!!! I'm pretty sure if "it gets ended" that means it expires. LOL!!!! Your dishonest and contradictory approach to interpreting the book of Revelation has been exposed. It's completely contradictory to claim that the thousand years has to be...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. Why won't you answer my simple question? Can't admit that your logic is flawed? Do you believe the symbolic "one hour" of Revelation 17:12 expires or not? Yes or no? Your avoidance of answering that question speaks volumes about your dishonesty and pride which prevents you from...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Exactly. He is trying to make the argument that Satan can somehow be literally bound with a chain, which is ridiculous since Satan is not a physical being. Premils miss that John is portraying a dragon being bound with a physical chain in a physical pit/prison and that symbolically represents...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That's exactly what I did, so that's a ridiculous question to ask me. LOL. What? The last/seventh trumpet signals several things which happen at that point. If 1 Cor 15:51-52 is any indication, they all happen very quickly. When it sounds believers' bodies are all changed but also it signals...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Douggg, you are incredibly dishonest. Don't change the subject. You won't even answer a simple question because you know that you were caught in a contradiction and are too prideful to admit it. You indicated that the thousand years has to be literal because it expires. You then said the one...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Douggg, who do you think you're kidding here? Did I ask you to give evidence to support your belief that the one hour and 42 months represent the same time period? No, I did not. And you know it. I am asking you if the "one hour" of Revelation 17:12, which you believe symbolically represents...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL!!! Please answer the question. Do you believe that the one hour/42 months expires or not? Yes or no?
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, the lack of consistency in their approach is obvious and reveals their doctrinal bias.
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You're not addressing my point about your contradictory logic. Again, you are arguing that the thousand years has to be literal because it will expire. Right? Yet, you say the "one hour" in Rev 17:12 "represents the 42 months of the beast-king's rule". Do you think that the one hour/42 months...