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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    What are the two witnesses doing with the prostitute?

    Right. But, even before that in my previous post I did say "the great city Mystery Babylon is the direct spiritual opposite of the holy city New Jerusalem, earthly Babylon, Sodom, Egypt, Jerusalem, Rome, etc. are all harlots and those who were part of their wickedness all have Mystery Babylon as...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    What are the two witnesses doing with the prostitute?

    LOL. I did say "all believers are spiritual citizens of the holy city, new Jerusalem, while all unbelievers are spiritual citizens of the great city Mystery Babylon.". Did you miss that? Anyway, glad to know that you now understand how I view Mystery Babylon.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Your beliefs are a crock. Your arguments are extremely weak and unconvincing. Jesus will return when the last enemy, death, is defeated. 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Look at his reasoning. It makes no sense. It reveals his doctrinal bias. He says the thousand years has to be literal because it expires and then says the "one hour" doesn't have to be literal and it represents the 42 months. Well, the 42 months expires, so why does he not use the same logic to...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Did you not read the first 3 posts of this thread? If you want clarification, then read those. What a joke for anyone to try to claim that he doesn't clarify what he believes. Grow up.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What kind of logic is this? You are arguing that the thousand years has to be literal because it will expire. You say the "one hour" in Rev 17:10 "represents the 42 months of the beast-king's rule". Do you think that the one hour/42 months never expires? I'm pretty sure you don't think that, so...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No, you're dealing with your very active imagination which contradicts the facts. Let's look at the text again. Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    We do see it. You clearly are not presenting truth with your weak arguments. Why not? He referred to "THIS generation", not THAT generation. He was referring to a generation that existed at that time. Preterists recognize that, but falsely interpret it as a period of time as you do, so they...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    THE KING/DOM IS COMING

    You are really showing your doctrinal bias here. You clearly are trying to figure out a way to make Daniel 12:2 fit with your premil doctrine instead of trying to interpret it objectively. First of all, Daniel 12:2 does not say only some of the unsaved dead rise at that time. To assume that...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    THE KING/DOM IS COMING

    Maybe a few times, but it's been a long time so I don't recall exactly how you interpret it. What I'm trying to get at here is where do the mortals come from that you believe will populate the earth after the second coming of Christ? It can't be the sheep who inherit "life eternal" (Matt 25:46)...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    What are the two witnesses doing with the prostitute?

    Not at all. What don't you understand about my saying that it's the direct spiritual opposite of the new Jerusalem? Do you not know what new Jerusalem is? It says it is "the bride, the Lamb's wife" (Rev 21:9). The bride of Christ. The church. The new Jerusalem is the heavenly Jerusalem...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    What are the two witnesses doing with the prostitute?

    There isn't just one Israel and, again, the only children it says that she has are Jesus Himself (Rev 12:5) and those who belong to Him (Rev 12:17). Do you see any reference to any other children that the woman has? I don't. I don't know why you won't address this.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    What are the two witnesses doing with the prostitute?

    LOL. Wow, we agree on one things and disagree on everything else. If you want to think that's progress, then...okay. I already told you. I am just baffled as to why you would ask me this right after I gave my understanding of Mystery Babylon. Did you read what I said or not? I'll just repeat...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    What are the two witnesses doing with the prostitute?

    That is your assumption and I disagree with it. Again, and for the last time, the only children that it mentions the woman having are Christ Himself (Rev 12:5) and those who follow Him (Rev 12:17). That's a description of spiritual Israel, not earthly Israel. If you can show the woman as having...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The wine of God's wrath in the cup of His indignation

    Oh, he just understood you falsely by mistake, but when I misunderstand you it's on purpose. Interesting.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The wine of God's wrath in the cup of His indignation

    I am not "trying" to misrepresent anything. Show me where it says that ungodliness is removed from Jacob AFTER the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. I don't see that. I see ungodliness being removed from the people of Jacob who accept Christ under the new covenant for the past almost 2,000...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. Your doctrine is so incredibly weak. There is no rapture described or implied in Revelation 5. That is complete nonsense. These verses have all unbelievers being killed when Christ returns. How does that support your view? You think those who are left survive into a time of tribulation...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What is with your condemning attitude? Judge not or you will be judged with the measure you are judging others (Matthew 7:1-2). The foolish virgins end up where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth (lake of fire - Matt 13:42) because that is were scripture says those who will say "Lord...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. Here's Keraz to the rescue to set everyone striaght with his nonsense. How lucky are we. Do these "faithful Christian peoples" inherit the kingdom of God with mortal bodies in your view? Do you believe they are the sheep/righteous in Matthew 25:31-46? You called? Yes, a chronological...