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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What you, and your fellow pretribbers, have not done is actually exegete any scripture. You do nothing to back up your claims.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    How does your interpretation of Zechariah 14 line up with this passage: 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL at you referring to your doctrine as plain and simple. LOL!!! We have a bunch of comedians here.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL at "emotionally destroyed". What a joke. That is not what Paul is talking about at all. LOL! You will do ANYTHING and go to ANY length to try to keep your weak doctrine afloat. Do you not believe in interpreting scripture with scripture? While Paul does not go into detail about what causes...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    He can't do it. He would rather make the rest of scripture fit with his interpretation of Zechariah 14 than admit that his interpretation of Zechariah 14 contradicts many other scripture passages.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. So, you're not doing that because....?
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Where is what you're saying indicated anywhere in what Paul taught? Please start backing up your opinions with scripture or I will have no choice but to ignore you. I'm not interested in reading only your opinions that are not backed up at all by scripture.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No, Jesus very specifically said that no one knows the day or hour of His second coming (Matthew 24:36, Matthew 25:13). You deny clear scripture repeatedly. Where do you think it is taught in scripture that Christ's second coming is a specific day? Do you want to be taken seriously or not? I...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, of course. Why not? There is no indication otherwise whatsoever. This is you once again trying to twist scripture to fit your view.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    But, you believe in 2 more comings of Christ just like they do, so that is what I'm addressing. I showed that your "Coming 2" happens on the same day as your "Coming 1" which completely refutes your belief.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. You are hilarious. This is all you have in response to someone exegeting scripture. You never exegete scripture yourself. And we're supposed to believe you? LOL. You are completely delusional.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Amen! Pretribs do not allow scripture to interpret scripture. Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16 And the four...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Except for 1 Thessalonians 4:13-5:11, 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, Matthew 24:29-51 and Mark 13:24-32, you mean?
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Would any other pre-tribber like to be honest for once like CadyandZoe was and admit that 2 Thessalonians 1:10 is a clear reference to what will happen when the rapture occurs? 2 Thessalonians 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    If you can't back it up with scripture, then there is no reason to take you seriously. Everyone knows this.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    For some reason you decided not to address it in direct response to me. I don't necessarily read every post that isn't directed to me since there are so many. Okay, so you agree that 2 Thessalonians 1:10 is a reference to the rapture, which you call "Coming 1". So, do you ignore the preceding...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Don't waste your time with someone who is afraid to post any scripture. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Agree. Well, those questions were easy to answer. Pretribs just can't accept how simple this all is. They have to make it as convoluted as possible because, for some reason, they can't accept the simplicity of it all.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What truth are you presenting? I only see your opinions. Do you have any interest in backing them up or do you equate your opinions with scripture?
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Do you want to have an actual discussion or just continue making claims without backing them up? Please address what I said. Do you believe the following verse is about the rapture and not the second coming? 2 Thessalonians 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be...