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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Are there Two or More Resurrections?

    Yep, I sure did. Why? Verse 1 only refers to the deliverance of Daniel's people so that's only talking about believers. Unbelievers will not be delivered by The Deliverer Jesus. So, in verse 2 he expands on what will happen at that time by including more than just Daniel's people being...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    He won't annihilate it, but He will burn it up and renew it at His return. Peter indicated the following will happen in fulfillment of the promise of His second coming: 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Did Paul know everything there is to know?

    Revelation is a symbolic book and it describes things symbolically that are described elsewhere in scripture literally. You are sadly mistaken and your low opinion of Paul is pathetic. Let me tell you something, everyone. This guy thinks that Paul didn't know all there is to know about the...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Are there Two or More Resurrections?

    Are you somehow missing the part that talks about them possibly falling away? What if they fall away? They are still believers? If you think so, then what do you think it means to fall away?
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Are there Two or More Resurrections?

    He is not told that only His people would be resurrected. Where do you see that here: Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. You are reading things into the scripture that aren't there...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Are there Two or More Resurrections?

    What are you saying, that you think believers will be cast into the lake of fire? That can't be since you said otherwise in a different post. So, you are really hard to follow. Can you please at least make some effort to understand what I'm saying? I'm not saying any people like that are...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Are there Two or More Resurrections?

    Do you not think the "unjust" who are resurrected unto "shame and everlasting contempt" and "damnation" will be cast into the lake of fire? Do those sound like descriptions of people who will inherit "eternal life" in "the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world" (Matt 25:34,46)?
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    This will be a sign for you:

    I am just a messenger, also, and this messenger says you are wrong because Peter indicated that the new heavens and new earth would come about as a direct fulfillment of the promise of Jesus's second coming. If it didn't come about until 1,000 years later then what Peter said in 2 Peter 3:13...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Where? Show me. If someone did do that, I promise you that I will rebuke them severely. No. Who said that? No. Why would they be? Do you remember anything I said to you about how I am excited about His return? Do you imagine that you are somehow more excited than I am just because you are...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Actually, yes, but he doesn't give exact amounts of time when describing them. And some of those times you're showing there are symbolic rather than literal. I don't expect you to understand what I'm saying since you are a hyper-literalist and hyper-futurist, but I'm saying this for others who...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Are there Two or More Resurrections?

    You continue to show your utter lack of discernment. Anyone who falls away is not saved. Again, scripture never calls saved people "unjust". You are sadly mistaken.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Slow your roll, man. No one is saying pretrib people are evil or going to hell. Do you really think anyone here would say that? Of course not, dude. Maybe try asking for clarification first before thinking anyone is saying that. Okay? Great.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yep. He had it figured it out without needing any charts to figure it out and without needing any charts to explain it to others. Imagine that.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Are there Two or More Resurrections?

    Goodness sakes. Your lack of discernment is stunning. NEVER would scripture describe saved people as being resurrected unto "shame and everlasting contempt" or unto "damnation" and NEVER would scripture described saved people as "unjust". If you think so, then show me! Good luck with that. As...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Are there Two or More Resurrections?

    So, I guess referencing John 5:28-29 wasn't enough. I should have known you wouldn't actually bother reading it. John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Are there Two or More Resurrections?

    Is this a serious question? Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    That description describes Jerusalem more than Rome. Jesus talking to the Jewish scribes and Pharisees of His day: Matthew 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, but that doesn't mean we will ever know the day or hour of His coming in case that's what you're saying (not sure if you are or not). It just means if we are ready for it then it won't take us completely off guard like it will unbelievers because we are expecting Him to come. This is Jesus...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Right. Some things that people here say are so ridiculous that we don't even need to bother refuting it. Everyone can see how ridiculous it is and they don't need our help to see it.