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Can you show me how your understanding of the order of bodily resurrections unto bodily immortality lines up with what Paul taught about that here: 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits...

What you're saying here is so clear and undeniable that is just boggles my mind that anyone would deny any of this. They have to ignore how Jesus compared the scale of destruction on the day He returns to the scale of destruction on the day Noah entered the ark and the day Lot went out of Sodom...

It means he is closed-minded and unteachable.

They are the ones who have part in the first resurrection, but what you're not recognizing is that it's talking about spiritually having part of Christ's resurrection, as scripture talks about. Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting...

LOL. Talk about nitpicking. Oh no, he left out 2 verses of Paul's narrative. That really changes everything, doesn't it? I'm kidding and making light of your silly need to point out something that is irrelevant to the point being made. If you really want to be technical about it, the narrative...

At least you said "usually" instead of trying to say those are the only 2 choices. :)

Yes, it is a city, but it is a SPIRITUAL city, not an earthly one. It is the SPIRITUAL opposite of the New Jerusalem. If it was an earthly city, what would be mysterious about it? Nothing. As for Revelation 11:8, are you aware that Jesus was not crucified in Jerusalem? John 19:20 This title...

And once again you are proving that you have no reading comprehension skills and also no spiritual discernment. I have never said that exactly half of the world is righteous (saved) and exactly half is unsaved. You are taking parables too literally. When Jesus refers to 5 wise virgins and 5...

I already addressed this in my post. Are you unable to read? No, it is not. Nowhere does Rev 14 say that it's only referring to a rapture "of the covenant Jews". That's nonsense and not taught anywhere in scripture. Why would you interpret Revelation 14 in such a way that doesn't line up with...

Scripture says it is, so I am going to side with scripture over you every time. Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles. Having part in the first resurrection has to do with...

Dude, will you please grow up? You talk like a middle schooler. You ramble on and on while saying nothing. Stop wasting your time saying things that add nothing to the discussion. It's very hard to take you seriously when you do that. Especially when you attribute things someone else has said to...

How would I know? Based on other things you've said, I had no reason to think you were joking. Are you never serious then? How can I know when you are being serious? I understand scripture just fine, but your words are very far below scripture. You do not communicate clearly. That is not my...

I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand. Again, the watching is in relation to deception and keeping from being in spiritual darkness. As I've shown you from passages like 2 Thess 2:1-12 and Matthew 24:10-13, there is a mass falling away from the faith that was prophesied to occur...

I guess that's what it takes to get him back here. You just need to think about him. :)

Yes, of course you think everyone is wrong except you. You are special. :rolleyes: Peter said the new heavens and new earth is our destiny. It's too bad you don't think highly of Peter. 2 Peter 3:13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where...

No, that's the second resurrection. Jesus's resurrection is the first resurrection. Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles. First resurrection: 1 Corinthians 15:20 But now...

So, your answer to who John was writing about in the following passage is Israel. But, which Israel? Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our...

Tell us again who Jesus will fight for when He returns? Does it agree with who Paul said He will be fighting for when He returns? If not, you better rethink things because Paul knew what he was talking about. Paul, writing to a mix of Jew and Gentile Christians, said: 2 Thessalonians 1:6 God...

It's clear that you refuse to look at passages like Romans 9:6-8, Galatians 6:15-16 and Ephesians 2:11-22 honestly. That says it all about you. You would rather cherry pick scripture and make it say what you want it to say than to accept what passages like those teach.

I showed you 3 passages that teach the concept of a spiritual Israel. You are the one obsessed with that term, not me. That's just something that people call it to differentiate it from the nation of Israel. Let's call it "the Israel of God" instead. Okay, now address my points instead of...