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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    So what? You are being too literal here. Their significance ceased when Jesus died on the cross and ushered in the new covenant. There are some Jews who are saved and belong to Christ. I, of course, am not saying no Jews sin today, but that isn't what making an end of sin means. Your focus is...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    Again, the context is in relation to the city, Jerusalem, and the sanctuary (temple) only and not to global destruction that we know will occur when Jesus returns. We know that Jerusalem was destroyed along with its temple long ago in 70 AD, so why would you not think the prophecy was about...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    Doug, I gave you the scripture reference that I based that statement on. I guess I need to spell it out to you. Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    Please pray for discernment. You currently are very lacking in it. Isaiah 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. There is nothing to demand that...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    No, they don't. I understand you need that to be true in order to support your doctrine, but it is simply not the case. Scripture teaches that he will return at the last trumpet (1 Corinthians 15:22-23,50-54) and the seventh trumpet, which is described in Revelation 11:15-19, is the last...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    But, what is the context of the destruction in that prophecy? The entire earth? No! The context of the destruction relates to the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary (the temple in Jerusalem). Making it relate to the entire earth is something that you are adding to the text. Daniel 9:26 And...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    I actually agree with that, but we disagree on the timing of the millennium. But, that (after the millennium is over) is when the Father will begin to reign and you have Him beginning to reign even before Christ returns. That is what you indicated in a previous post. That doesn't line up with 1...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    Like a typical premil, you often take figurative text literally. It results in you interpreting one verse in such a way that contradicts other scripture which teaches that Jesus will be destroying the earth and all the wicked on the earth when He returns (2 Thess 1:7-10, Matt 24:35-39, 2 Peter...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    Why are you thinking that what is described in Revelation 12 follows what is described in Revelation 11:15-19 chronologically? Do you see the birth and ascension of Jesus referenced in Revelation 12:5? Clearly, Revelation 12 is not a chronological continuation from the end of Revelation 11.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    Are you being serious here? Daniel 9:26 (KJV) And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    What you are being dishonest about with that verse (Daniel 9:27) is that it relates specifically to the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple and not to the destruction of the entire earth. The context for that can easily be seen by simply reading the previous verse (Daniel 9:26) which...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    LOL. So? Scripture is words and not charts. Give me a break, Doug. Please get serious. I used scripture. Do you have a problem with that? I'm not going to use graphics or charts, Doug. And you know it. So, don't ask me to do that again. I'm not interesting in wasting time with nonsense like...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    He already stood on the mount of Olives long ago. Zechariah 14 is not about the return of Christ. Believing that results in serious problems because later in the chapter it talks about animal sacrifices being performed and such, which is not something that will happen after Christ's return. But...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    I'm glad that you can at least acknowledge that. Many premils don't. You lost me here. I don't understand what you're trying to say here. According to Paul, the Father doesn't reign until Jesus returns. You somehow having Him starting to reign even before Jesus returns. Please read this: 1...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    It's very sad when I see people blatantly making things up like that out of a desperate attempt to prove that their view is true. Another person tried to act as if the Hebrew word translated as "after" in Daniel 9:26 means soon or immediately after, which it does not. They said that in an...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    Yes, you have already shown your opinion about that. No need to do it again. You waste so much time saying exactly the same things over and over again like a broken record. It's unnecessary. I understand that you think you're being clear and are giving irrefutable arguments, but I completely...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    But, I don't deny that. So, what does that tell you? It should tell you that you need to stop mentioning reformed eschatology when you're talking to me. Yes, that's great. So, please stop mentioning reformed eschatology when talking to me. Otherwise, I'll just have to ignore you.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    Because that is unnecessary. I'm able to communicate using words, Doug. Just like everyone else here. There's no need for graphics or charts in order to get a point across and explain scripture. Also, I can't make a graphic to show something that I don't even believe will happen. Scripture...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    Doug, are you aware that scripture doesn't contain any charts? I presented a timeline using text from scripture. Do you have something against scripture text, Doug? Using scripture, I showed a timeline of Christ's reign as having begun upon His resurrection and ascension as indicated in the...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation 11 and Revelation 12

    Daniel 7:13-14 records His ascension as well, so that matches up with the passages I presented (Rev 12:5 and Ephesians 1:19-22. Do you deny what Paul wrote here: Ephesians 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power...