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This is indeed is the logic according to men, men living after-the-fact of all that was "before the foundation of the world." Just as the Lamb was slain before the world even began and only came in the fullness of time, seemingly, according to these times of all being made manifest, as if their...

These things are true, but not in the way you have thought. The words are spirit, but could not be fully spiritually discerned until the times were fulfilled, which have only recently come to be. These are the false and the True: "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made...

I know it is common to debate, or voice opinions, and discuss such matters, but that is not what I was doing.

The good news first, is that there is less to fear than most have anticipated. The bad news is, every commonly held believe regarding the tribulation and second coming is all part of the "lie" spoken of by Paul. This is and has been the "strong delusion." Every point, whether pre, or post, or...

Much of what is written, like the beast and Babylon accounts, etc. are images that represent all that is true. However, they can also distract from certain very simple truths simply because they leave one to imagine their meaning leading to many possibilities of what one could believe. We do...

You have made claims and judged both, therefore, as it is written, by "what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you."

I don't see how it is that you are making that connection. The rapture (so called) simply describes the experience of fully taking on the Holy Spirit and passing from death to life. Which is not as obvious to some while remaining in the flesh and in the world, for the flesh blinds while the...

'permanently simple' ...Interesting term! I should think in our walk with Christ in God, that means something like "rooted." Hmmm Thanks--all the best to you!

That is a lie.

Calling unbiblical testing biblical is against the Word of God (antiChrist).

You twisted it. Oh, and yes, I have established my teaching and claims with scripture plenty, just not when your request were not requests but demands as part of your accusations. You got what you deserved, with grace you didn't deserve.

I showed where and how you twisted scripture already, and you simply went on to twist it all the more. But yes, I ignore your accusations, not allowing Satan in the would-be discussion.

What you are describing is not the biblical "test." That is just study and research. Which you have taken as a license to go out accusing followers of Christ with, not unlike Satan. As I said, you have made your test, a test of you, of your own position before God. I also explained further. In...

No--I quoted you--and it is all here on record.

I don't know according to forum rules, perhaps one of the mods would like to answer that. But since even non-Christian topics can be debated, I should think we could discuss almost anything. I don't want to start picking apart Forum Rules, and I don't have a problem with the Trinity doctrine...

You mean it's Christianity Board's list?

Whose list is that ("we")? Are those your observations and questions in italics?

Welcome Jonathan! Blessings in your ministry, God be with you!

The words of scripture judge--but not necessarily your understanding of them. I am not saying the scriptures are wrong--I am saying you are--and you have proven it by twisting the words and turning them around and claiming them to mean something completely different. Therefore, you disqualify...

You proved yourself wrong, by giving a verse, then speaking against what it says. 1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. The verse you quoted was 1 John 4:1. It is speaking to...