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    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    If the prophesy of Daniel 9 references the Roman Army in 70 AD, that would mean the prophesy was NOT fulfilled within the time set by the prophet Daniel. You force a 30-40 year gap/delay the prophesy says nothing about.
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    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    Charlie are you also Preterit or Partial Preterit?
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    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    In order for the prophesy to be fulfilled within the timeframe given by Daniel, the destruction of the city and temple must also be fulfilled within that time. And it was, just as the prophet Daniel foretells. From the moment the vail was torn the city and temple ceased to be holy. It was not...
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    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    The blood of Christ on the cross also proves the apostasy of Jesus' kinsmen according to the flesh, who cried "crucify Him". From the moment of His crucifixion, the city and the temple became completely desolate exactly as Christ said they had. The desolation of the city and temple didn't come...
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    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    I realize I'm very late to the discussion, so forgive me Charlie for raising this question late. I'm in complete agreement with how you prove "He" speaks of the coming Messiah in Dan 9. I also agree that all that Daniel writes concerning "He" was fulfilled when Christ came to earth a man...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Sorry you view this understanding as nonsense David. Still praying for you, and your wife also. I was sorry to hear she is battling cancer. Edit: Now I'm not certain if it is your wife or the other David's wife struggling with cancer??? However I have been praying for you and yours for...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Good understanding Marty, it's good to have confirmation from others for our understanding of Scripture! I also agree the Scriptures do indeed come more alive when our mind is opened to receive spiritual/symbolic interpretation. Thanks Marty.
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Zechariah seems to be pointing to the darkest day before the dawn. Is it reference to the day the blood of Christ was shed upon the cross? A day known only to the LORD followed by light that shines in the darkness, as living waters began to go out from Jerusalem and the LORD became King over...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    In the last days, that is the days we have been living since the advent of Christ come to earth a man. Have you changed your mind, do you no longer believe we have been living in the last days since the advent of Christ? Peter quotes Joel, who speaks of this time (last days) as the DOTL...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    The Prophets of Old prophesy of the DOTL that was to come when man would call upon the name of the Lord to be saved. I would hope that you would not deny that man has been calling upon His name since He came to earth a man. The prophesies from the Prophets of Old also speak of the DOTL that...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    The Prophets of Old call connect these last days with the DOTL, I quote from them!!! Why do I have to spell everything out for you ALL the time? You never say the fulfillment of the above what has not begun??? You have repeatedly said the DOTL will come when Christ comes again! But then you...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Christ, after casting out the demons from the man sent them into the herd of swine to perish in the waters because the devils besought (pleaded) with Him not to torment them before a certain time. Matthew 8:28-29 (KJV) And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes...
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    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    The seventh angel is given a trumpet to sound, and the passage in Rev 10 I showed you says when the seventh angel begins to sound "time shall be no longer." In this passage below we read that when the seventh angel sounded the kingdoms of this world become of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    As I've already said the prophets of Old connect the day of the Lord with these last days. The DOTL through the words of the prophet Joel shall be in these last days when whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered. The DOTL is described as being both a blessing and a day of...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Why would I want to pretend the last/final day of the day of the Lord that came in these last days has already come? The FINAL or LAST DAY of the Day of the Lord shall be darkness when it finally comes when the seventh/last trumpet begins to sound. The woe shall be upon all who shall be...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You acknowledge the day of the Lord has come, but then you deny these last days are the day of the Lord the prophets of Old foretell would come. The prophets themselves link the day of the Lord coming with the last days. Acts 2:16-17 (KJV) But this is that which was spoken by the prophet...
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    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    The things the prophets of Old foretell that shall come to pass with Christ the Messiah, began to be fulfilled in the day of the Lord that Christ ushered in, and the day of the Lord in these last days is continuing to be fulfilled as time (a thousand years) marches on. Then when this allotted...
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    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    You must have missed this passage, I've highlighted in red the mention of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound. Put this passage together with the other verses I listed and we learn that we are given a limited time to be eternally saved. Time which ends with the second...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Can you explain from the Bible how spirits operate outside of a physical host? Because the Bible does not explicitly state that demons can operate entirely independent of a physical host, but it does show that they can function in ways that do not require direct possession of a physical host.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Absolutely amigo! Satan is indeed a subtle foe of mankind, especially those who have been born again! If we only think of Satan as possessing the out-of-control lunatic that abounds in this world, then we are indeed in danger of falling under his wicked deceptive ways as did our first parents...