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    Rapture ... soon?

    The Bible ~ specifically Revelation 20:1-6, of course ~ does say, though, that there is a millennial period. And Jesus says... said, actually, a bit over 2000 years ago now... that He is King. And that His kingdom is not of this world. Not "not in this world," but rather "not of this world"...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    No apology necessary... But it is a bit curious; you just assumed I was of the female gender and called me "sister"...? Hm. Well, again... no matter. What are you even talking about here, Bladerunner? Certainly not Revelation 1:3... "The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Ah, you know, I love our sisters in Christ... especially the really hot ones... <smile> ...but I'm a brother. That seems fairly obvious from my avatar, but whatever... LOL! Hmmm... well, in that case, yes, not of God, so not born again of the Spirit, but you may be elect, but not yet born...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Yes. To each his own. Not sure what a "6 point Calvinst" is... <chuckles> The acronym for Calvin's five points is "TULIP," so, if you're a six-pointer, might it then be... "TULIPS"... maybe...? <chuckles> If so, I would like to know what the 'S' is... <chuckles> II'm a five-point...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Well, how one understands it, sure. Yes, but not in the same simplistic manner as you. <smile> No, in Romans 9:6-7, when Paul says, "not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring," he is actually speaking of those of...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    No one does. That's the allegation, but no one does. And even if we call amillennialists' understanding of, say, Revelation 20, an allegory (which shouldn't be done), that can't then be extrapolated onto every other think in God's Word. That's just silly. Just one. There is no need for a...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    You're welcome to you opinion, of course... I agree that it's a significant, substantial difference... <smile> ...and it has significant, substantial ramifications, for sure... Right, which is what I said when I said that "in that sense we are all "millennialists" of one kind or another."...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Hmmm, well, there are varying opinions about what "replacement theology" even is. But... I'm amillennial; I've been very clear about that... millennialism of any sort really has only to do with where God's "millennium" or "thousand years" of Revelation 20:1-6 falls in the order of things and...
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    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    <chuckles> No, just one plan, for His Israel, yes, which includes Gentile believers. Crystal clear in the passages I quoted ~Romans 2, 9, and 11, and Ephesians 2 ~ and this one: "Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days He has...
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    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    For the most part I agree with you regarding preterism, Dan, that they are wrong about Jesus's return and the fulfillment of the prophecies, but preterists are believers in Jesus Christ. Respectfully, I don't think Satan cares about the different views regarding the end times (eschatology) but...
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    Can any of you link or share a good argument against FULL preterism?

    I subscribe to amillennialism, Bladerunner, and what you say here regarding amillennialism is not true at all. The Jew is absolutely "a part of God's plan," as you put it... and not just a part, but collectively; Israel is the collective term, so collectively all Jews are the object of God's...
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    Revaluation 5 - Where was Jesus

    Do you think Him not to have been right there? "And between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders I saw a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain" (Revelation 5:6). No... <smile> Well... "...He went and took the scroll from the right hand of Him Who was seated on...
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    Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, At This Time The Resurrection Of "All" Takes Place (Then Cometh The End)

    Ah, well, it does exist... Notice I said 'does' and not 'will'... But yes, it does "exist in Scripture," but there is much disagreement on the nature of it, not whether it is or will be a reality or not. Grace and peace to you.
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    Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, At This Time The Resurrection Of "All" Takes Place (Then Cometh The End)

    Not sure if this is what you're getting at or not, EWQ, but it... depends on what one means when the speak of the fire and water, which on its face I'm sure seems like a ridiculous thing to say to some folks here, but... The flood in Noah's day that swept away every living thing besides Noah...
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    Does Daniel 7:21–22 Support Amillennialism or Premillennialism?

    There will be a lot of... hand-wringing <smile> ...over this comment, I'm sure, but... Scriptural numerology is a very interesting study... and is not always the same from passage to passage, writer to writer. Much of Daniel is apocalyptic in genre and highly symbolic, just as is John's...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Paul says we are, in Ephesians 2:5-6, as I said. And I would tell you that it's in the same way that Jesus is with us now... just as He said He would be, in Matthew 28:20. <chuckles> Well, by and in the Holy Spirit. Again, having been born again of the Holy Spirit, we have been made alive...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    @WPM @covenantee I'm not exactly sure what they would say, RDB, but I'll answer to this: Jesus's Kingship in God's millennium is certainly not fabricated, by any stretch of the imagination... I think we all agree on that. And... We all have part in it now. As Paul says, we who have been born...
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    Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, At This Time The Resurrection Of "All" Takes Place (Then Cometh The End)

    @Davidpt Addendum to the above: The whole... "debate"... regarding the millennium is like the "debate" concerning creation in a way. There are those who believe God created the earth and the universe in six 24-hour periods (young earth theory), and those who believe a "day" in Genesis 1...
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    Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, At This Time The Resurrection Of "All" Takes Place (Then Cometh The End)

    Ah, well, I'm not sure if you're saying what I think you're saying here or not, but this whole disagreement around God's millennium and whether it's yet to come, here now, or already past is... Well, I'll just say that really, it shouldn't cause such discord or disdain or... just to make it a...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Two simple things (at least they should be simple, but we have a way of... complicating things... :)... God's true Israel, at any given time, all the way back to Abraham's day, consists of all those who have been called by God and born again of the Spirit and thus in Christ. The "millennium" of...