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Maybe the analogy has it's flaws. Not what analogy doesn't? I think the analogy sufficiently explains or exemplifies the truth that there are two stages in our growth toward holiness, as the original poster was querying. Justification, and sanctification. There is of course glorification, which...

And I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise. Yet your very statement here is the epitome of what the Vatican dislikes about the American Constitution, and would repeal had she the power. As I've pointed out previously, you rail against OSAS, and disagree with the principle of such a claim...

In one sense, yes. Spiritually, God looks upon us as if we had never sinned. Through the death of Christ and the shedding of blood, the just requirements of the law is satisfied. Thus we have our legal license or immigration papers to enter the kingdom of God signed and sealed. That is what we...

Do you realize what you are doing? Do you understand what the law is? Imagine for a moment that you are the leader of a political party. You are campaigning against the incumbent party. To attract votes, you need to present yourself as having the ability to do governing different. In order to do...

You asked some good questions, and made some excellent points, but your conclusions leave questions unanswered, and your assumption is that there aren't answers. You said, quote: There you have it.....the qualification needed to enter the Kingdom of God and the “right to eat of the tree of...

It makes perfect sense when you consider how Jesus revealed the truth that the death of the body is sleep, and the soul (remember first mention) is not a part of the human being, but the totality of life. Body soul, Spirit. “And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed...

Except you don't really mean that do you. You didn't think death is really death, but another lesser version of living. And you also, intentionally or not, accept Greek pagan philosophy by separating body soul, spirit, and giving them independent life forces. Do you understand the teaching of...

The proper interpretation is that the Lord did indeed preach to those sinners who are now dead, but He did so when they were alive and had the ability to hear with their ears and repent. And the Lord accomplished that through His prophet, Noah, a "preacher of righteousness" , but we all know how...

You've touched on the very concept that gave birth to the present controversy over eternal torment. A lie from Satan himself that declared to Eve, that her sin would not result in her death. That was the genesis for the entire pagan religion that has endured to this day. It's principle doctrine...

Aaaaaaahhhhh, thank you. Now I understand the difference.

I know the true answers, and I reject any that suggest A. That Jesus went to hell and suffered in eternal flames forever or B. That sinners go to hell and suffer forever or C. That the wages of sin is eternal torment or D. That death isn't death, but is in fact eternal life in a really really...

Not sure where to got the ideai was claiming everyone would be saved. Perhaps an unwise choice of words. All the above quote I agree with. Regarding what is eternal... The Scripture says punishment is eternal. It does not say punishing is eternal. Therefore what is eternal must be death.

Probably easier for me to answer through AI... https://www.perplexity.ai/search/crusades-that-were-not-against-SEAlo4XkSZC.4JPbQU62lQ

Oh yes indeed. We will never ever have any idea of the weight of the burden of guilt that Jesus voluntarily accepted that ultimately led to His death, which if truth be told, was the direct cause of death. And such would have destroyed any mortal man, what terrible conflict there must have been...

So I am not a theologian as such, and my discussions therefore may suffer somewhat for a lack of depth and understanding. So. In that vein, I must ask. What is the difference between damnationism (which I have never heard of) and annihilationism, a version of which I subscribe to?

All of the above. With one caveat. The Christians who initiated the crusades were nominal Christians who initiated crusades against other Christians who they disagreed with doctrinally and politically, as well as Islam.

“1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins. 2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the...

No. I would rather it be set within the context of unbridled grace and mercy and unfathomable love, accompanied do by choruses of praise and worship. Really. However, I keep reading on numerous threads that those who do not accept Christ into their lives are also granted eternal life but bound...

No need to be so defensive. I said, "give what you can". If you aren't in a position to help, then there is no fault on your part at all. My objection was to your belief that evil and wickedness and homelessness and hunger and pain and sorrow was a fait accompli and thus was nothing to be done...

No, I'm talking about these people who rejected Christ and His offer of salvation... At the close of the thousand years the second resurrection will take place. Then the wicked will be raised from the dead and appear before God for the execution of "the judgment written." Thus the revelator...