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LOL. You just don't get it. The only thing described in Acts 1:9-11 about the manner in which He left was that it was bodily and visible (people literally saw Him ascending). So, He will return in that manner. It's not saying His return will be exactly the same as His ascension in every possible...

That is correct. But, that means the time when Satan is loosed from the bottomless pit is at the fifth trumpet, not 1,000+ years after Jesus returns as Premils like you believe. I don't know how you're not seeing that.

No, they are not. Locust-like creatures would not have an angel as their king. How can you not recognize the symbolism? The book of Revelation has a great deal of symbolism and the locusts are another symbol. They represent the fallen angels who have the fallen angel called Apollyon, who is also...

Satan is referred to in other ways in scripture such as "the devil", "the serpent" and Beelzebub. Apollyon is just another of his names that describes part of who he is (a destroyer). Who else but Satan is the king of the fallen angels? They are killed "his angels" (Matthew 25:41, Revelation...

Both. The rapture will occur on the day of the Lord. In verse 1, Paul refers to "the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ" and "our gathering unto him". That's one event. In verse 2 he refers to that event as "the day of Christ" or "the day of the Lord". In verse 3 he says that day (the day that...

That's what I said. What are you talking about? I have said several times now that the context of Acts 1:9-11 is that Jesus will return from heaven in like manner as He ascended there in the sense that He will descend from heaven visibly and bodily just as He ascended to heaven visibly and...

LOL. In some way? Paul told us in what way in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17. We will be gathered to meet the Lord "in the air" after He descends from heaven. It doesn't, but that proves nothing. Do you believe that Matthew 24:29-31 and Revelation 19:11-21 both refer to the same event, namely the...

Okay, you're making a different argument than the one I was originally arguing against. You are apparently not trying to argue that Jesus was crucified within the physical city limits of Jerusalem or trying to argue that in Luke 13:33 that Jesus was claiming that a prophet could not perish...

Lame response. Do you have no interest in actually backing up your claims? Why should anyone take what you say seriously in that case? If you're going to make claims you should be willing to back them up and to address challenges made to your claims.

Read the rest of 2 Thessalonians 2. Would you not expect that a time of unrestrained wickedness involving "the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish" (2 Thess 2:9-10) would include many people falling away...

Don't bother looking at the context or anything. God forbid that you ever do that. In 2 Thessalonians 2 Paul talked about wickedness no longer being restrained at some point before the second coming of Christ. He indicated during that time: "The coming of the lawless one is according to the...

Why would you take it literally as if they are literal locusts? Why would literal locusts have a fallen angel as their king? That makes no sense. The fact that Abaddon is a fallen angel is a very strong indication that the locusts symbolically represent fallen angels and they have Abaddon as...

What evidence do you have to back up your claim? Who do you think the locusts in the bottomless pit/abyss represent? I believe they represent demons/fallen angels. It says Apollyon is their king. Who else but Satan is the king of the demons/fallen angels? They are described as "his angels" in...

Again, you are adding things to what is written in Acts 1:9-11 that are not there. What does it actually describe? Jesus bodily ascending to heaven with people literally seeing Him ascend with their own eyes. THAT is the manner in which He left. He will return from heaven in like manner. Visibly...

It never says that literally all believers will be martyred. That comes from your imagination. How can you think that no believers will be alive when Jesus returns? That blatantly contradicts what Paul wrote in 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17. He referred to those who are alive and remain until the...

Don't just post a verse reference with no commentary. Why did you post that verse? It certainly doesn't refute what I said.

If I'm a Christian? LOL. There is no such thing as the imaginary pre-trib rapture, so I would die of shock if such a thing ever occurred. Jesus made it clear that we will be gathered "immediately after the tribulation of those days" (Matthew 24:29-31). I will take His word over yours every time.

Any word can potentially be used in a figurative or symbolic way and that word is no exception. It does not have to mean a literal one thousand. That's a fact. In Hebrew the word "elep" means a thousand, but is used figuratively to refer to a large unknown number several times in the Old...

I would say that I don't care what you think. So, we might as well move on at this point. You are unteachable and I've already known that for a long time.

No, it is not saying that. You're not addressing my point. I showed where the very same phrase is used in John 17:15 in relation to being protected from evil while on the earth rather than having to be taken off of the earth to avoid it. Why won't you address that? You are ignoring my point...