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  1. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I'll try to put it in word that you understand. You're blind to the truth. (The End)
  2. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Uhhhh.....NOPE....(The End)
  3. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Which rapture and which resurrection are you talking about? The great tribulation can be seen at the 5th seal. The wrath of God begins with the 1st trumpet after the 7th seal is opened. LOL. And the wrath of God ends with the 7th trumpet. I'm not sure what translation you are reading, but it...
  4. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Still quoting "the end" nonsense. I grow tired of proving you wrong with scripture as your blindness and lack of understanding seem boundless.
  5. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Not true. There will those that are raised when Jesus comes at the end of the trumpets. Incorrect. Daniel 12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a...
  6. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    The great multitude is result of the gathering from heaven and earth. Mark 13 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. The Church is already in heaven (pre trib rapture)...
  7. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Of course, they are not the same thing. The second rapture or gathering from heaven and earth happens before the Day of Christ. The great multitude is in heaven at the marriage supper when the wrath of God takes place.
  8. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
  9. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    yes. did I miss something?
  10. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Jesus comes to the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect. It should be obvious that He returns to heaven and the great multitude is the proof. Rev 7 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues...
  11. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    So, yes, the moon is blood at the sixth seal and the moon is dark when Jesus returns. Don't miss the forest for the trees. Ever seen a lunar eclipse? The moon goes dark. But before it goes dark it is a blood moon as the rays of the sun are bending around the earth until finally the moon goes...
  12. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Part 2 Rev 11 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. We can prove the wrath of God is over with the 7th angel.....here Rev 10 7 But...
  13. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Marks. Nobody reads long posts. But if you force youself through this, it might make some sense. Part 1 The 144,000 are exactly what God says they are. They are not the Church or all of Israel or any other nonsense, they are exactly what God says they are. They are 12,000 from each tribe of...
  14. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Without question, they are different perspectives of the same judgment...the wrath of God. Armageddon. I thought you would ask me how I know that the 144,000 are part of the great multitude and are sealed in the 1st four seals and do not go through the wrath of God.
  15. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I see things a little differently The pre 70th week rapture of the Church happens before the seals are opened as we see the Church in heaven before the throne in Rev 5 and we see 24 elders with crowns in Rev 4. The fullness of the Gentiles has come in and part of Israel has its...
  16. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    And yet what most do not understand is the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 does occur at the 7th trumpet or vial, it occurs at the 6th seal, prior to the wrath of God.
  17. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Yeah LOL. Truth7t7 and I get into it pretty good at times....a real slugfest. But he doesn't take offense no matter how heated it gets. He doesn't pull any punches either. It's all good. We are Christians and it's great practice at forgiving.
  18. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Thanks. Been years since I have seen this position. Ponder, I will.
  19. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    LOL. OK. Would you provide scriptural support for these comments?
  20. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    This cannot be correct because the same one the confirms the covenant is the one who breaks the covenant in the midst of the week.