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God saw the fathers of the Jews as the first ripe in the fig tree at her first time, meaning the plan was for the Jews to be the first harvest. Since they served other Gods the Gentiles would be the first harvest. Hence the pretribulation rapture. The fig tree has two harvests. Hosea 9 10 I...

Could you provide any scripture that identifies the Papacy as the Beast?

I usually find that people find a need to end the discussion because they can't deal with being wrong. That is truly the difference between us. If you can prove me wrong, it means I've learned something. That, to me, is a positive. I read where you threatened to block another poster. How will...

Thanks for your well thought out response. My opinion is that there is still one stone upon another as the sign Jesus gave has not occurred.

I understand. Hi. I'm The Light. Nice to meet you. I certainly understand that you are a confident person, that cuts and runs when the Word disproves what they are saying. A wise man would open his eyes and seek the truth. The alternative is cut and run. Have no answer for the sign?

I'd look right here for that answer. Matthew 24 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44...

Did I say that? I said the lie is in place to explain the pre tribulation week rapture......alien abductions. I don't believe in aliens. I do believe in fallen angels.

Ok, if you think you are correct, what was the sign that happened? And what did Jesus say the sign was. And you may not understand that a pile of stones is one stone upon another. The prophecy is unfulfilled.

If that's the case, why would you insinuate that you could count 7 years from the rapture? There will be a pretribulation rapture. When it happens, if you know anyone that is not worthy to escape, don't tell them they can count 7 years to Jesus return as that is not true.

The Word says one stone upon another. A pile of stones is one stone upon another. Additionally, if it happened WHAT WAS THE SIGN? And what did Jesus say the sign was? I think you are stuck of this one.

The is NO SCRIPTURE that says there are 7 years after the rapture. Look around. The lie has been in place for years to explain the disappearance of people.......alien abductions. How many movies have you seen in the last couple of years that show people vanishing?

Why don't you bring that confidence and address the questions that I asked?

I think you are missing the whole point. The point is, "Taken" has not read any of that and came to the conclusion that there will be a pretrib rapture just by reading the Word.

Look out your window! I sent over an entire marching band to celebrate your victory. Bet that felt good. What was I thinking? It is the twelve tribes that will be gathered from the earth immediately after the tribulation. But it is the Church that is gathered from heaven so of course it is also...

I see no mention of the Church. Why do you find it necessary to add things that are not there?

Another error. What scripture gives you the impression that Jesus will return 7 years after a rapture?

What you think and the FACTS seem to differ. One stone upon another. Also, you dodged the question I asked about the sign. I'll ask again. If there is not one stone upon another, what was the sign that happened when you say it occurred, and what sign did Jesus say would happen?

Now here's the part that should end the concernment of any watching for the coming of the Lord before the tribulation. Luke 21 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. And...

Read this. Luke 21 6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall...

LOL. It amazes me that I can post countless scriptures that absolutely prove without question that what he is saying is incorrect. He reads right past it like it doesn't exist and plows on in complete blindness. How does the blind see?