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    Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?

    Amen. "If ye have not the Son ye have not the Father either." There is only ONE way to the Father...through the Son.
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    Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?

    Amen, it is a mystery, the born again believer is one spirit with Christ and God, through the indescribable gift of His Spirit that lives in us: 1Co 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or...
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    Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?

    It almost seems like the distinction between a husband and wife, they are one flesh and yet two distinct persons. Maybe that would help to explain why there seem to be valid arguments on all sides. I believe Eve is a type/shadow of the Holy Spirit born from the side of the Saviour (Adam being...
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    Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?

    This is not an easy thing for us humans to grasp and not something to divide over in my opinion, as long as nobody denies any of the Father, or the Son or the Holy Spirit. However I would like to point out that scripture says Jesus had the Spirit without measure, and believers are the ones who...
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    Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?

    Not something to belittle others and divide the body over.
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    Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?

    Wow. Goodness. It's not a matter of choosing to believe one over another. The teachings of Paul and Jesus are not opposed to one another, at all. Paul even said to follow him as he follows Christ.
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    Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?

    I agree brother, and it hasn't escaped my notice either.
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    Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?

    You are simply not understanding. Let the Holy Spirit illuminate and rightly divide. Jesus was the Jewish Messiah that only the nation of Israel had been waiting for for hundreds of years. Now here He is, and here it is being revealed and taught that He is not the Messiah of Israel only but...
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    Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?

    Forever implies there is no coming back from the second death. Jesus said to fear Him who can destroy body and soul in hell. I do not believe man's punishment necessarily goes on for eternity. But no, our human perspective and emotions need to give way to God's perspective which is higher...
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    Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?

    Meaning the propitiation for sins was not for the Jews only but for the Gentiles (world/nations) as well. There are scriptures that need to be looked at from the perspective of Israel, since it was to the Jew first.
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    Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?

    I don't think anyone's brain fizzes out at that idea at all....most of us have loved ones who aren't saved and we in our humanity would much rather think they will all be saved somehow. However we are not God and our human perspective is not as high as His, which is why we need to receive His...
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    Does Christian Universalism sidestep the justice of God?

    I'm not making any claims about myself at all...the conversation isn't about me. What I see all over scripture are urgent warnings about judgment, destruction, people perishing....and that the only hope to avoid it is through faith in Christ and following Him. I don't see any hope for those...
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    Does Christian Universalism sidestep the justice of God?

    It's just carrying on with the allegory. Stars in the darkness of space. And darkness is a further metaphor for the death/destruction that is reserved for them. Look again, it's not complicated when you aren't trying to wrest the scriptures to fit a pet doctrine, but rather let the scripture...
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    Does Christian Universalism sidestep the justice of God?

    Amen...all doesn't always mean literally all, but only all in a certain subset. It's dangerous to cherry-pick and form doctrines based on isolated verses. We need the whole counsel of God and if what we believe is true it will harmonize with all of scripture. And just want to remind us all...
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    Does Christian Universalism sidestep the justice of God?

    It's reserved for them. That means future by definition. If you have a table reserved for you in a restaurant, it means you aren't sitting at it yet and it is still waiting for you. In the meantime they are not fixed upon and anchored to the truth but are blowing with any wind of doctrine...
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    Does Christian Universalism sidestep the justice of God?

    I'm not at all surprised you aren't rightly dividing the scripture. Wandering stars refers to their behaviour now in this life, and blackest darkness refers to the judgment they will reap in future on the day of judgment. Look carefully: Jde 1:10-13 But these speak evil of those things which...
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    Does Christian Universalism sidestep the justice of God?

    As others have pointed out he doesn't support anything he says with the word of God. His argument are only human emotional reasoning. Which doesn't hold water because as the word says God's thoughts and ways are higher than ours, not fleshly. He doesn't seem to have "ears to hear" the word of...
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    Does Christian Universalism sidestep the justice of God?

    The wages of sin is death......blackest darkness is a metaphor referring to the grave, ie, death. The second death that nobody can come back from. The "first death" we as believers are redeemed from, but there is no teaching in the bible about coming back from the second death or from being...
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    Does Christian Universalism sidestep the justice of God?

    God's love and mercy was and is shown in Jesus Christ, that whosoever would believe in Him would not perish but have eternal life. There are only two fates that await mankind at the judgment. Either perish or have eternal life. They are opposites. The Lord has set before us only two choices...
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    Does Christian Universalism sidestep the justice of God?

    What is merciful is to warn and tell people before it is too late, that they may get on board the Ark before the judgment comes. As Jesus was faithful to do. Luk 13:23-28 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate...