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  1. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    The word BELIEVE encompasses DOING what Jesus taught. Here's what Jesus taught: John 15:2 2 "Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. Let's take a close look at what Jesus is teaching: 1...
  2. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    John 14:15 15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. @LoveYeshua loves Jesus. Know why EG? Because HE teaches what Yeshua taught. NOT what you and those that post as you do THINK He taught. Jesus said IF you keep my commandments, you love me. What commandments would those be EG...
  3. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    I think there's enough in the other 2 posts. As to James. Yes, those such as yourself do twist the words of scripture to suit their own needs. What those needs are, I do not know. But here, again, is what James said: James 2:26 26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith...
  4. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    I wanted to add: Those that teach that good works are not necessary, and that obedience to §God is not necessary... and PLAINLY state so.... do not love Jesus as HE said the following: John 14:15 15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. You see K...I'M not saying this.... JESUS is...
  5. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    I've replied to your many verses. They are INVALID because you refuse to understand what the word BELIEVE means. It means TO OBEY. Until you understand that, all your doctrine is off and not in line with what Jesus taught.l
  6. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    What? So God is not timeless? Please study up on this. I'm not even going to debate it. It's kind of like debating whether or not water is wet. So then, dear K.... since Jesus was addressing Himself to those under the OC.... I say we throw out the NT and give up on Christianity. No. I...
  7. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Apparently you are reading a version of the bible that does not exist. Paul corrected BAD BEHAVIOR as you've posted. If he corrected bad behavior...what do you suppose was the reason?? See 1 Cor 6 above. Those with incorrect behavior WILL NOT see the Kingdom of God. So then why not teach, on...
  8. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Kokyu, The SHOULD in the verse does not mean SHOULD, as we understand it today, but as it was used in Old English...... meaning TO DO IT. Seems like you know English pretty well.....so I'm rather surprised that you don't know this. There is no SHOULD as to our behavior in the NT. (as we use...
  9. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Still no scripture. Typical.
  10. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    What a strawman argument! Who EVER said anything about being perfect?? I'm not reply to this anymore. And you've lost the ability to be good enough to please Jesus by teaching that it's not important to obey Him.
  11. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    ProDeo Some think not obeying God is no important matter. Some think they could live in sin and still be saved. Some teach that it's impossible to lose salvation when Jesus Himself stated this. After so many verses and scripture... IF I believed in OSAS,,,,I'd pause and rethink my position...
  12. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Satan's greatest lie is that we could disobey God and still be saved. Those who believe in God will be saved.... Those who do not obey God will see the wrath of God. John 3.36
  13. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Of course we do. Jesus entire ministry was about doing good works. Faith without works is a dead faith. Here's what Jesus taught: John 5:28-29 28 "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, 29 and will come forth; those who did the good...
  14. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    You believe in OSAS. THIS is not a biblical doctrine. It was NEVER part of the teaching of the early church. Teachings that have come about 1,800 years after the ascension of Christ are not biblical teachings. If you studied some church history you'd know the above. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 3 For the...
  15. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    page 2 of 2 Same. All your verses are the same. BELIEVE is the key word. If you come to understand what BELIEVE means... you'll never think the same again. BELIEVE PRESENT TENSE JESUS WILL NEVER cast anyone out.... unless, of course, they wish to leave on their own. Luke 8:13 Jesus taught...
  16. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    OR you could begin to understand what you're reading. EG I've replied to the below AT LEAST two times. You don't LIKE my reply. Let's try again: Why do you have "no works" in parenthesis?? I asked you what BELIEVE means. Been asking you for about 10 years now. Believe means to be taught by...
  17. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Do some studying pandaflower. Try to find out WHY they were "NOT OF US". You'd have to study some church history - which will be rather dangerous for you. You might just find out the truth. It seems you've neglected to read one of Jesus best teachings on loss of salvation. Let's try again -...
  18. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    marks, You deny plain and simple scripture. You deny what Jesus taught. Why don't you post my scripture and explain how it DOES NOT state what it plainly states. John 15:1-2 airei means to LIFT UP and CARRY AWAY??? You like Strong's? Fine. Then go back to Strong's and post ALL of the...
  19. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Thank you for your damnation pandaflower. It shows what a loving Christian you are. Also, you have not replied to my scripture and you have NEVER provided any scripture. You're here to give your opinion. Your opinion matters not. Also, since you're damning me, I'd like to make this...
  20. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    No. I don't teach this. The NT teaches this. And if I haven't offered enough scripture it's because you don't care to know what Jesus taught but prefer to learn what the new churches teach....which was NEVER taught in the early church and never taught till the 1800's. I suppose this means...