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  1. GodsGrace

    Was the Cross Always Understood?

    Hi Before The Apostles did not put everything that happened together until Paul came on the scene. He studied the situation for 3 years before going to the Apostles with his findings. I fight hard on these forums for the very reason you state above. JESUS did not teach that all we need to do is...
  2. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Yes... Matthew 7:24 and 7:26. The wise man (24) ACTS on the words of Jesus. The foolish man (26) does NOT act on His words and his home gets swept away. I've posted this several times. It seems the simple words of Jesus are not understood. I'm also reminded of another verse about weighing...
  3. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Yes. Let's look again. It even states that we are to PURIFY OURSELVES. What does that mean to you? Sounds like some of the purifying is on YOU. God did HIS part... now He calls on you to do YOURS. And yes, our hope is an expectation based on faith. What faith? The faith that the OSAS teach...
  4. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Why don't you ever reply to my posts instead of worrying about my salvation? My salvation is none of your concern. No deflection. I'm responding to the OP. The OP is NOT about MY salvation. Please post some scripture that states that we are not required to obey God... which seems to be what...
  5. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Here's the problem. WHERE in the NT does it state that we are PERMANENTLY children of God? Please post the verse. I can't remember it. We are children of God IF we abide in Christ. 1 John 2:28 28And now, little children, abide in him, so that when he appears we may have confidence and not...
  6. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    The passage is very plain. Verse 3 AND EVERY MAN THAT HATH THIS HOPE IN HIM, PURIFIETH HIMSELF...EVEN AS HE (JESUS) IS PURE. What does this teach?: We have a HOPE of salvation and will not know we are saved until the end. Jesus said: Those that endure till the end will be saved. Matthew...
  7. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    I do believe that those that claim we SHOULD obey God... or maybe not even that... are the ones that need to look inside..... Not the ones who state that God demands obedience. I don't even know how one could be debating this. Do you not want to ACT on Jesus words like the wise man? What...
  8. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Right! I keep hearing about Strong's and "the Greek". Funny, the Greek doesn't seem to be too important when it comes to the word BELIEVE and what it means and how to DISOBEY is equal to DISBELIEVE. :csm
  9. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    I hear this too. Guess Paul went to that cross that keeps being mentioned as Jesus having done it all so we just get to sit around and do nothing to further the Kingdom of God. If one cares to read they'll find that Paul, James, Peter - all taught what Jesus taught. No difference. BELIEVE IN...
  10. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    You're right EG. John 15:1-2 is about fruit bearing. It's for believers. It's about believers BEING CUT OFF the vine... JESUS is the vine.... Because they do not bear fruit. Believers that do not bear fruit will be taken away, cut off, severed, FROM THE VINE. It's EVERYTHING about loss of...
  11. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    I hope you know that Romans 7:4 is speaking about The Law.....not good works. We are dead to the Mosaic Law. Otherwise Matthew 5:20 makes no sense: 20 "For I say to you that unless * your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven...
  12. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Here's your comeback §EG: Colossians 1:21-23 21 And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds, 22 yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach - 23 if indeed you...
  13. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    If 1% of sin is deadly.... WHY are you teaching disobedience to God on this Forum?
  14. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Of course we're saved by grace. I don't know of any Christian that disagrees with this. And of course we were sinners when we got saved. What does this have to do with being obedient to God?
  15. GodsGrace

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Agreed. Jesus wept over Jerusalem. Jesus would want that all be saved...just as we read in 1 Timothy 2:4...God desires that all be saved and come to the knowledge of Him. Yes m'am...we let our little light shine,,, but how many that see it will actually respond? So happy that you understand...
  16. GodsGrace

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Oh, well, I think we could agree on that. We can't see the heart of a man and we certainly cannot judge another's soul. I do think, however, that if we know a person is an atheist we can be pretty sure that they are not living for God. I do see, for instance, when we go to an affair/ceremony and...
  17. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    If you claim that good works are not necessary, as Jesus and Paul taught.... then you are teaching that obedience to God is not necessary. Maybe, marks, you're not aware of what you're actually stating.
  18. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    It is NOT self-contradictory. If you think it is, then please show us some scripture that states that we could disobey God and STILL be saved. I cannot find any. Maybe I could be sinning a life of sin and still be saved!! It kind of sounds like that is NOT what Jesus is teaching. But, who knows...
  19. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    The statement that @Big Boy Johnson has made is NOT contradictory. The problem is that some Christians don't seem to understand that God demands obedience. YES marks,,,we keep ourselves saved because we obey God, just as He has told us to. How many verses do you need??? Aren't those I've...
  20. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    I'm happy to hear that you agree. So maybe you could stop using the word SHOULD...which I've commented on. There are no SHOULD's in the bible. God says something... It's a command. Maybe you could make clear statements for those reading along that might be new Christians and it's these for whom...