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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    That is not true! You constantly want to rewrite history to suit your crumbling doctrine. You have no historic quotes because you cannot be bothered studying history, and are therefore ignorant of the subject you claim to speak authoritatively on. Tertullian did not believe what you believe...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are blinded by your Zionism. Its roots are with the heretics. These NT books were written after the cross. This blows apart your Judaizing.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You obviously didn't read the Op well enough. I didn't call Premillennialists outright heretics. I do not believe that. I spoke of the roots of Premil.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    This shows the pettiness of some Premils.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I'm just highlighting the duplicity of the Premillennial interpretation. There is no consistency with it. It is all over the place. You are selective when you want to spiritualize something. The fact is, Revelation 20 is oozing in symbolism. For you to insist on a literal wooden thousand years...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Tertullian wrote in Against Marcion Book III (Chapter 24): As for the restoration of Judæa, however, which even the Jews themselves, induced by the names of places and countries, hope for just as it is described, it would be tedious to state at length how the figurative interpretation is...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The ironic thing is: in keeping with the early Amillennialists, many of the early Chiliasts emphasized the New Testament heavenly spiritual hope rather than an earthly carnal one, as most contemporary Premillennialists promote. They spiritualized the fulfillment of Israel's hope, relating it to...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Jesus said in Matthew 6:33: “seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.” As an American citizen you owe your allegiance to the American flag. But there is a higher allegiance. That is to Christ, because He is your King. The kingdom of...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I did not say you were a Pharisee. Your future expectation is a Pharisaical invention. You make the same mistake they do. Christ did not teach a literal temporal territorial physical kingdom based in physical Jerusalem. He spiritualized it and showed it was a heavenly eternal kingdom that was...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You corroborate your faulty opinion of Revelation 20 by your faulty opinion of Revelation 20. Lol. That is not corroboration.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It is a figurative period like the thousand years. It means a short period of time. A thousand years represents a long period of time. At least Amils are consistent in their hermeneutics.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I am showing you the inconsistency and folly of the Premil logic. It doesn't add up or make sense. Premils make it up as they go. It is like the mark of the beast, they are so insistent on it being hyper-literal yet when it comes to the mark of God, which is mentioned more times in Revelation...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Premils ad-hoc approach to biblical interpretation is at the core of the Premil error: (1) They totally reject the idea of corroboration when it comes to this doctrine because it does not exist in Holy Writ. (2) Their fixation with this highly symbolic text located in the most obscure book in...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    If you are adamant in interpreting a thousand years hyper-literally, how long is the “one hour” that the beast reigns with the “ten kings” in Revelation 17:12 is? i.e. is it sixty minutes?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Moses employs `a thousand' in Deuteronomy 7:9 saying, "Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations." Is this a literal or figurative thousand? 1 Chronicles...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Not so. Not only are you besotted with the wrong Israel, the wrong temple, the wrong covenant, but also the wrong Zion. Romans 9:30-33 states: “the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. But Israel, which...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes. You have nothing of biblical value to contribute. So, it is pointless engaging with you. All you have is insults and taking offence.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Everything in both the Old and New Testament is pointing towards Jesus Christ. It is not about physical earthly land. It is not about the Middle East. It is not about a brick temple. It is about spiritual territory. It is about a heavenly kingdom. Earthly Zion means nothing today; heavenly Zion...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    This text exposes your position here. Can you not admit that? You are fighting with Scripture. You are forcing your theology on the sacred text. You are adding unto Scripture. That is not wise.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Please do not lecture anyone on their grammar or reading ability. Your grammar/spelling is the worst on this board. Contrary to what many imagine, or have been taught, the beast, antichrist, the mystery of iniquity, the son of perdition, and that wicked one, have been about for 2,000 years+...