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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I have repeatedly shown you: the context of "restoration" in both passages is spiritual and involves the power of the Holy Spirit bringing an elect people within Israel to faith in Christ. This results in them being united to fellow-believers (Jews and Gentiles) throughout the world. There is...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Revelation 20 does count, but not what your force upon it. You force events and experiences upon it that are nor else taught in the Scriptures. You force your opinion of Revelation 22 contradicts multiple climactic passages track the Word of God.
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    "Why I'm Not Pre-Mil"

    But you were presenting Rev 22:14-15 as support for a future millennium, yet it is clearly after the millennium.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You know it is not there. That is why you refuse to quote the text. It is a figment of your imagine. Your teachers have taught you wrong.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    How about actually telling us where the Bible teaches that there will be survivors after the "battle of Armageddon," instead of making these fantastic claims? Not only are you misrepresenting what it says in the Bible in order to get Premil to fit, you also require your own Lexicon to force a...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    It is the spirit of this world that controls wicked empires through the ages.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Many see 7 cycles in Revelation relating to the intra-Advent period. These parallel each other. Cycle 1 Cycle 1 is basically introductory. It is the only vision that was received on Patmos. It relates to direct messages relating to the conduct of the seven churches (Ch 2-3). CYCLE 2...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Totally disagree that we all carry the mark of reprobation. Where do you get that in the Bible? The Bible teaches we are all by nature the children of wrath. BIG difference.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    That is a total cop out. We are talking about the founders of modern Premil. None of the early ECFs espoused modern Premil. This is damning to Premil. Mormonism is a relatively recent aberration from orthodox Christianity. You are comparing apples to giraffes.
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    The mark of the beast has to be the mark of reprobation that ensures a man will never see heaven. Men are obviously either saved or unsaved – but not all unsaved men have yet taken this mark of reprobation (mark of the beast). Many will eventually be saved at some future juncture. The message...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Contrary to what many imagine, or have been taught, the beast, antichrist, the mystery of iniquity, the son of perdition, and that wicked one, have been about for 2,000 years+. The beast therefore has to be a system, kingdom or a spirit. It obviously cannot be a man. Most Bible scholars of...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Marcion was actually a Premil. Through his distorted view of the Hebrew Scriptures, Marcion also advanced the idea of the full recovery of the Jewish tradition in the future. He saw the nation retaking its favored Old Testament position above all nations again in the future. He absurdly believed...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Please stop avoiding the issue. Furnish us with one single New Testament Scripture that outlines a land promise to ethnic Israel today?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Paul expands upon this great truth in Galatians 4:21-31, by asking a question: “Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What are you talking about? Salvation is something that people experience in life. They experienced the fruit or resulting blessing of salvation on the new earth. Anyway, your future millennium is saturated with sin and sinners, deception and being deceived, crying and dying, corruption and...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Yes. This is the end. Rev 20 starts the last of 7 recaps, all culminating at the second coming.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I agree. Some people simply like to be heard. However, Scripture is all that matters here.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Self-praise is no recommendation. That is in your opinion. To the rest of us, it is called: Fudging the Issues.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    LOL. I will take this as a compliment. You know you have no rebuttal. These 22 reasons are watertight. Ok. If you are so confident. Let's put it to the test. Care to discuss the ones that you think are a "strawman fallacy"?