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  1. GodsGrace

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    The parents should be taking on the complete burden of the spiritual burden...or growth, I would say...of their child. Why only part? The church should be involved, but the burden is with the parents and THEY are the first teachers of their child's faith. The first catechists are the...
  2. GodsGrace

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    DID I SAY THAT!! My granddaughter has autism. She loves Jesus. She was baptized as an infant. Baptism is REAL...it is NOT a symbol as Protestantism believes. I know the reasons why the children of a religious family were baptized in the early days of the church...and I agree with it. We do...
  3. GodsGrace

    All the ELECT please stand up

    God is NOT GOOD,,,, unless He brings EVERYONE OF HIS CREATION to heaven,,,, IF it is HE who chooses, as you believe. See what Paul says in Romans 9:1-3 1I am telling the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience testifies with me in the Holy Spirit, 2that I have great sorrow and...
  4. GodsGrace

    Is belief in the existence of God irrational?

    Comment regarding number 3.... Science had always stated that the universe always existed...somehow, in the mind of science, this removed the problem of how it got here. Then it became accepted that the universe did, indeed, have a beginning. The Big Bang...kind of like Let There Be Light...
  5. GodsGrace

    Is belief in the existence of God irrational?

    Amen! The very sciences they study were made by God. Some scientists are coming to realize that our human make up,,,our DNA,,,is too complicated to have come about by chance, as Darwin put forth.
  6. GodsGrace

    Is belief in the existence of God irrational?

    The link doesn't work...not that I would have read the whole thing. How one demonstrates that Christianity is rational.. TO SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO LISTEN.... is the same way one show that John Kennedy's death is rational. 2,000 years go by and this is asked of Kennedy's assassination. So how do...
  7. GodsGrace

    Is belief in the existence of God irrational?

    You don't. How do you demonstrate God's existence. Jesus said the Holy Spirit is like the wind.... you don't see the wind... but you see it's effects. Christianity is based on reason. If I get an alert for this tomorrow morning, I'd like to go through this thread... Good night.
  8. GodsGrace

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I agree with the above.
  9. GodsGrace

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    This brings to mind three parables, one after the other: Luke 15:1-32 The Lost Sheep The sheep wanders off. The owner is sad. He goes to find the lost sheep and when he finds it he is happy and carries the sheep home and gives his friends the good news. The Lost Coin The coin becomes...
  10. GodsGrace

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    Right. Theologians call it a Covenant because it was plainly an agreement between God and man.
  11. GodsGrace

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I understand and agree that debating is not the best thing to do which is why I give up after 2 or 3 posts. I'm not sure though, that @FollowHim was speaking about sin. I do believe he means A LIFE OF SIN....grieving the Holy Spirit time after time. I happen to know some of these persons he's...
  12. GodsGrace

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    Sorry,,,I missed this. The sealing of the Holy Spirit is so misunderstood. I can't get into now,,,will be logging off soon. If I get an alert from you TOMORROW MORNING,,,I WILL reply to this. Romans 10:10 faith.... There are too many IFs FALLING AWAYs CONTINUINGs KEEPING THE FAITHs in the bible...
  13. GodsGrace

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    @justbyfaith These two seem good. What they call the Covenant of Redemption... is also called The Adamic Covenant. (this comes AFTER the fall). The Edenic covenant - What is it? What is the Edenic covenant? | GotQuestions.org
  14. GodsGrace

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I understand what you mean by saying that the eating happened because of satan's deception and Eve accepting it. What I'm saying is that Adam is RESPONSIBLE for man's fall. If I can find something quick re the Edenic Covenant, ok..otherwise it has to wait till the morning...too tired here. I...
  15. GodsGrace

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I don't think we lose salvation due to sin...unless it's a life of sin. 1 John 3:9 I do believe Paul tells us we can become lost if we do not hold on to our faith. Hebrews 3:6 Hebrews 3:14 6but Christ was faithful as a Son over His house—whose house we are, if we hold fast our confidence and...
  16. GodsGrace

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I agree that they sure do not sound like Christians to me. I think he's just clumping all these types together into a "group". But we could wait and see what @FollowHim replies.
  17. GodsGrace

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Of course. Age of reason does NOT mean that there is a specific age when one can reason. A person can know God at the age of 8 (I've seen this) or a person won't understand till the age of 15, or 18....generally we say at the age of 12, but it means little because of the reason you've stated.
  18. GodsGrace

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    The woman was deceived because she did not know the truth. Adam was NOT deceived...he KNEW what he was doing when he bit into that fruit. 1 Timothy 2:14 does not mean that Eve is responsible for man's condition. Have you not studied the Edenic Covenant? With whom did God make this covenant? Who...
  19. GodsGrace

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I know this has been going on forever. But it's important for new Christians to be aware of the right belief. If faith is needed to be saved.... then losing faith will also lead to losing salvation. John said that he who believes the Son has eternal life... but he who does not obey the Son...
  20. GodsGrace

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Of course. Only adults should be baptized because it is their choice and belief. There is an age of reason....when one can understand the things of God.