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What I have been saying is all according to the scriptures, with many quotes, not all with quotation marks. If you do not recognize the scriptures, you do not have the Spirit to do so. That's on you. If you want to search the scriptures to verify, go for it, it's all there. Meanwhile, you are...

I am speaking of the whole counsel of God, every word. This topic is bigger than a few verse you may toil with. Get with the program, or be silent.

You now have two threads going and no understanding of this one point: the waters of John the baptist's baptism were liquid, but the waters which Christ spoke of are spirit. And you assume too much, thinking as a man thinks: "Man CANNOT baptize with the HS." How foolish can you be...did Christ...

If you are going to go back and discover your error of what I told you, go also and read again my response and see that it was not I who spoke of the law, but Paul; and that he did so for a reason, which was "to establish by the precedence of the past and their failures, that the waters (of that...

There is nothing silly about the clear and complete work of God toward salvation. What is not silly but sad, is that after 2000 years people still don't understand that on the one hand we "can do nothing", and on the other, we "can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." To think that...

I don't see that here, but rather a legitimate question about two very different statements that appear to contradict each other. It's a worthy topic of discussion. But thanks.

Here we go again with the blind attempting to lead :rolleyes: Jesus did not say to be baptized in water. YOU did. Here is our only need for actual water in salvation: John 3:5 "Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the...

More nonsense. It doesn't say "in water."

Has H.R. spoke against the value of doing good works by those who have been saved by grace through faith? Because here he has not. On the contrary, by this thread alone, it would seem that his only gripe is against those who advocate works as being necessary for salvation. To be clear, if one...

If anything, I am surprised that there are not more such would-be contradictions. It's not that there are contradictions though, but rather the greatest of contrary directions. If we do not have the understanding and perspective that the time in which these things were written was the great apex...

The value is in looking forward to the promises of God. It is like hope, without which one is lost...or worse, begins to think that this is all there is. Such is the fallen world. If you speak with a counselor or some such, you will probably be told just the opposite, to live in the "now", "in...

I could be wrong, but it looks like a fancy word for "compromise."

No...I posted Hebrews 9. But that is not the point. If you cannot make the connection of the symbolic things given in the scriptures...you are not qualified to say one way or the other. That was my point of quoting John 4. You have failed to discern the scriptures spiritually.

If you were not so blind, you would have noticed that I already gave witness. How does it feel to be dead wrong? It is you rather who is overcome with emotion. Weeping and gnashing.

Okay...you are really slow...so I will spell it out for you: What I quoted was Paul's qualifying statement to establish by the precedence of the past and their failures, that the waters were in fact NOT liquid, just as Jesus referred to at the well: John 4:13-25 "Jesus answered and said to...

No. I will not witness to a fool who mocks God and his children. Your loss.

He did not make it up. Hebrews 9 "23 Therefore it was necessary that the copies of the things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true...

...Why on earth would you laugh? Is the subject of interaction with the Holy Spirit seem funny to you? Do you think this is a joke? I witness the Holy Spirit daily.

That's it...he doesn't have or know the Holy Spirit! He said himself "We are eye witnesses to nothing." ...He has got nothing but what is written.

"And who is part of or is to be a part of the Body of Christ?" The dead in Christ and the living in Christ, the two witnesses; and of this time, those who have received Him in spirit, who's bodies are now His (to live is Christ).