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Answer me this: 1. How do we know if the good deeds we do are of us or of God? Isn't every good work of God? Didn't Jesus say we will be known by our fruit? And what's this story I keep hearing about giving us glory? To God goes all the glory since it's by the Holy Spirit that we can do...

Not necessary Davy.

OK. Davy, I thought we were getting somewhere. You keep reading your bible...someday you'll understand that you need more than your bible. Au Revoir.

If you notice,,1 Thessalonians 5:23 was the title of the trichotomy model that I posted up above. It's the model that makes the most sense.

You keep bringing up verses and I keep telling you they don't count in this discussion. So, let me understand you,,,I think I do now. You believe we have a BODY And the SOUL and SPIRIT are combined.... Right? This is not incorrect...but you do have to have these three things in a person...

Can the soul be touched? WHERE in the body is it?

Don't let your heart ache HR. Because FAITH ONLY is also a modern day concept which NEVER EXISTED in the church till now. You need both, OK? I didn't even read your whole O.P. You should write a book for goodness sake. Let me ask you a very simple question: When you read the N.T., do you come...

I don't reject scripture.... but it is not easily understood. We can be helped to understand it much better,,,,if not fully.

Didn't I? Mathew 10:28 "Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. OK. And here we have the BODY and the SOUL So where is the spirit? You see, you CANNOT go only by the written word on this. It...

OK. So in Luke 16 we have THE BODY THE SPIRIT continuing into Paradise (Hades). What happened to their soul?

You know.... Instead of giving us YOUR lesson... WHY don't you reply to my post to you? Can't you comprehend anything except what YOU believe? No. Really. Try.

Very nice post.

P.S. Re Mathew .... Are you aware that in the O.T. times certain expressions were used that we understand better today? For instance,,,the O.T. spoke about the heart as if it were the soul or the spirit. It is used interchangeably and has no particular meaning. Today, we know the heart only...

I understand everything Davy,,, If I'm asking you why you posted something,,,just explain why. You had posted Luke 16 re what we're speaking of. The Rich Man and Lazarus.... Why?

Forget about what the Greeks believed. Who cares? Start thinking in terms of what the Christian church teaches. This is a teaching that cannot be gleened from scripture. Just like the Trinity cannot... and just like Justification and Sanctification cannot. Besides studying the bible,,,it would...

What happens to those that never heard of Jesus? Is He not God? Is God not one?

@Enoch111 is 100% right. WHY belittel a woman that did nothing but the best she could. Which fruit were BAD that MT produced? Jesus said that we will be known by our fruit. Have YOU produced as much fruit as MT? I doubt it. YOU give the gospel message. THIS WAS NOT MT's purpose in life. We...

What does Luke 16 have to do with this? And did you also understand the trinity from scripture?

Davy,,,you could believe what you want to. There are some that believe in the dichotomy of man. There are some that believe in the trichotomy of man. Trichotomy makes more sense. Do animals have a soul? Do animals have a spirit? It it's combined,,,how does it get UNCOMBINED? (separated).

Great post ETB. @farouk does seem to post the same verses over and over. This is because there aren't too many that SEEM to support calvinism. Farouk and I have been through this many times now. I think that understanding calviinism is also a m atter of common sense. WHY would God make some...