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Right. And auto-correct makes me crrrrrazzyyyy. I use my tablet for two languages....you know the rest of the story. I've learned to just hit on one of those 3 words that appear on the top line. It's easier. If you can't fight 'em,,, join 'em. Yeah.

You know... they'd miss armageddon.... that's a good enough reason! must go.

Jesus referred to the Torah as the Law of Moses or the book of Moses because that's how it was referred to back then. Leaving aside that it's written in the 3rd person...this could be acceptable... how do you explain that Moses spoke of his own death? Deuteronomy 34:5-7 5So Moses the servant...

Just one comment: Those that refuse Christ today are here on earth and not sure God exists or that there's even an after-life. They will after they die under your scenario.... I just can't imagine anyone saying NO to the invitation to go to the other side.

You found voice print. Looking forward to you pages of convo!

Oh bb. You know I mean here on earth. But, yes, some trust their friendly priest/pastor more than God.

They sure aren't glorified these days!

cont'd Hmmmm. Jesus did make it important that we be baptized. The early fathers believed baptism took away previous sins. I think it's more than just telling the spirit world that we no longer serve satan. I don't really understand it well,,,,like prayer. I believe a person must come to some...

I never said salvation is conditional upon behavior..UNLESS a person is living a LIFE OF SIN, which I believe is different from sinning. What I do say is that IF we abandon God and are no longer IN CHRIST, then we will become lost again becaue our life-line is missing. I agree with everything...

I have to agree with all of the above. I just want to say that IF someone IS living for the devil... how does he get into heaven? Rev 21:27 @justbyfaith believes in a two tier belief system. Some solution has to be found because there are persons going around who claim to be Christian but have...

I'm happy that you stated that our lives do have to change. And that the one who BELIEVES in Chris...present tense DOES HAVE everlasting life. I could live with that. I find that what you put in parenthesis and highlighted by me is VERY important). If you can only understand it this way,,,fine.

Hi N, I'm not to keen on number 4. I think we should have that attitude anyway. I mean, I know a little bit about eschatology....I just don't think I could speak to it with any kind of knowledge that goes beyond the simple. I do believe the end is coming. I believe Jesus is coming back ONE...

Thanks BoL. I've just never read anything of hers and don't really plan to. I do believe that there were to be no new revelations after Jesus. Just clarification on the existing ones.

HI JBF Did you write the above?

Right now we DO NOT have everlasting life. Our everlasting life begins here. This is the same principle that Jesus taught that our life in heaven begins here in the earthly Kingdom. Jesus spoke mainly about this Kingdom. About 100X vs 4 or 5 about salvation. check it out...it's true. We WILL...

NOTHING BB! I wrote to you that your verses were the ONLY ONES...I already checked. SLEEP TIGHT!

OK. So what you're saying is that you read the bible (N.T. mainly) and AGREE with JS? Which is pretty much what we all do no matter where or how we learn. I read the short version and I don't find anything particularly awful about it. I hear some say that LDS are not Christian and I'm...

You cannot really believe this and are offering it as an option. It's impossible for a non-believer to enter into heaven. Without even going far in posting verses, Rev 21:27 comes to mind. How can anything unclean enter into heaven? And without the washing of blood we are truly unclean. There...

You're talking about the Church. Capital C. TTYTT, I'm not too interested in any church. I know that every church has its problems. No one is perfect. And some even teach incorrect doctrine, and I don't mean only the CC. You're right , of course...they both claim to be the original.

Actually, I feel the reason we should be here is to listen to each other and come to some agreement between us. I think you just need to think on it a little. I can't think of a good example and I should be able to. Let's say you like shopping at a big store. Walmart. But it's so big. Every...