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So...you also deny Joel's prophecy and Peter's confirmation of it, against what the scriptures say? Apparently, we have been arguing with people about the scriptures who don't believe them. There is no room here for debate, these things are written. Why do you call yourself a Christian.

And...where did you get that? Prove it with scripture, or retract it.

Hear, hear, all you who love the Lord! For here is a confession of one who speaks against the apostle Paul, the Lords anointed, who clearly documented in the scriptures that "some are prophets" during these times. Ephesians 4:11

I am. As is anyone who is in league with Christ.

What of it? Do you see anyone who is able stand against the Lamb?

Hear, hear all you who love the Lord...for this is a witness against what is written and of God. Nonetheless, the obsession is yours, for I have said nothing of tongues.

No, you do not. Nor do you need to believe it. Nonetheless, I have given you everything you have asked for - proof from the scriptures, and still you question me after including my witness as being consistent with those witnesses given in the scriptures.

That is not biblical and without precedence, for the prophets of old did not confirm through the scriptures. If you mean to "test every spirit", then by all means do so. But if you do so against the scriptures regarding the precedence set in the prophets, then it is you yourself who is doing...

This I have done. Have I not given you all of the prophets of old who did not prove with scripture, and also the prophecy of Joel which was confirmed by Peter...all of which is in the scriptures? But now you act as if I have not, therefore the burden is on you who cannot prove otherwise.

No...it is based on your interpretation of the scriptures which are riddled in parables. Which I have explained as the perspective of the dead verses the living, which are gravely different. But I have given you the meaning in spirit from the living God...if you can receive it.

biloqewu, Has the Lord not come to you, and is He not now with you? If you say, Yes, and know the day and the hour...your witness is good. But if you say, Yes, but I believe a day some eight years in the future is a better day than the day He came to you...your witness is false. For, if you...

LOL, read the bible. Peter announced the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy beginning at the day of Pentecost. Acts 2:16 And if you will not confess your error and campaign against the truth to those here, at least do so with God...for it is His truth that you have so vehemently misrepresented.

That's not really the problem of this discussion. The problem is, the blanked denial by some saying that God has not and does not in fact pour out His spirit during these times according to scriptures, while claiming there is no scriptural evidence of it...and treating those who read and have...

Love the Moodys! How about:

That [again] is not biblical. What precedence is there for "visions today" being any different than those of the prophets of old, before the scriptures were? There is none. That is just you making up your own standard or following the teachings of men. And this you do in complete disregard to...

Certainly, you don't have to believe me or anyone else, but you are being silly. Did Israel need scripture to believe the prophets? No, they just killed them. Did Israel need scripture to know that Jesus' miracles were of God? No, they just crucified Him. Did the Jews and the gentiles need...

I have given you my testimony and told you - I had no indoctrination of any kind: Direct spiritual contact with God first, then the scriptures. Did you not understand what I said?

No, there is no lack of scriptural evidence, I just didn't quote the overwhelming amount that there is, assuming that you know that God has made such decrees and is in the business of spiritual revelation. That elephant is indeed in the room, but if you are going to deny it, I can certainly set...

Dave, that is not biblical. In fact visions and all spiritual activity began with God. Is there evil spiritual activity also? Of course, but that does not cancel our God's own spiritual activity.

The word of God is many fold: in the scriptures, yes, but also by decree, and in spirit. But the context here is both the scriptures, because Paul spoke to those who were under them, but also by decree and in spirit, because most (the gentiles) were not.