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  1. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    “The only begotten God” - the one God isn’t begotten. Tertullian lands hard on this point. The Supreme God is not begotten. Trinitarianism later opposed him.
  2. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Almost all translations are produced by trinitarians. Have you so soon forgotten your link? The one which said NASB95 is the best (along with NKJV) and NASB20 is not a good translation?
  3. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    “God the only Son” - trinitarian sounding “No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.” (KJV) “The only begotten Son” - Jewish sounding
  4. Matthias

    Jesus own words that He is the Son of God

    From Today in Christian History - #OTD November 1, 451 Council of Chalcedon ends. It was the fourth and the largest of the early general counsels and insisted Christ has two natures, the human and the divine. https://twitter.com/LizBrown217/status/1587372049575694336?s=20&t=vZPIJV7ZQFd0krkA3ppSWw
  5. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Unitarianism always prevails when the criteria is the constraints of history.
  6. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    I think that’s a wise decision but it’s inconsistent with appealing to Tertullian to begin with. No doubt about it.
  7. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Will you now appeal to Montanism to support trinitarianism?
  8. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Tertullian will make you cry.
  9. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Trinitarians aren’t found in the Bible. Tertullian early has a powerful argument against Marcion.
  10. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    “Unitarianism as a theological movement began much earlier in history; indeed it antedated Trinitarianism by many decades. Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian. The road from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth-century Trinitarianism did not...
  11. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    No change. Prognosis: terminal.
  12. Matthias

    Jesus own words that He is the Son of God

    The historical orthodox doctrine of the Trinity. What @Behold calls “Classic Trinity”.
  13. Matthias

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    When or if you get around to looking it up, you shouldn’t be lost.
  14. Matthias

    Jesus own words that He is the Son of God

    Council of Chalcedon, 451 A.D. Source of the “Jesus is not a human person” doctrine. The wonder - an understatement, imo - of the Hypostatic Union.
  15. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    “Like Irenaeus, Tertullian taught that there is a Trinity for the purpose of revelation only. After all has been accomplished, the distinction between the persons will cease.” (J.L. Neve, A History of Christian Thought, Vol. 1, p. 94) A position expressly prohibited by the (later) doctrine of...
  16. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    That’s a good thing. That’s an awesome thing! Well done.
  17. Matthias

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    1 Samuel; 1 Kings. King Saul. David. Philistines. Surprise.
  18. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Church history was a point of some emphasis in mine, but I don’t think that comes as a new revelation to you. I obtained a BTh degree, which was the extent of my interest in formal theological education. The reading at that level of education isn’t particularly intense. We hit the high spots in...
  19. Matthias

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    Did you read other Ante Nicene Fathers, or was your education concentrated in other areas?