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Love and a meal are fine, but uniting around a false Christ is to be avoided.

There are two ways in theology that man is God: literally and figuratively. Trinitarianism and unitarianism can, but doesn’t always, unite on the former.

Why do you, a trinitarian, respect his unitarian view? What exactly is it about his unitarian view that you respect?

You’ve united with the trinitarians, and they with you, against Jewish monotheism.

My name is Jesus. I am the Messiah, the Son of God. I’m not the second person of the Trinity - a deity which isn’t the God of Israel.

“No theologian in the first three Christian centuries was a trinitarian in the sense of believing that the one God is tri-personal, containing equally divine ‘persons,’ Father, Son and Holy Spirit.”

Thanks. I’m hopeful that trinitarians will read it but I’m doubtful that many will. Have you read it?

I’ve learned through conversations with trinitarian pastors that there are several reasons - all of them bad - why the history of the doctrine of the Trinity isn’t being taught.

Pastor Tetzel?

Congratulations! :Happy:

The history of the post-biblical development / formulation of the doctrine of the Trinity should be known by all trinitarians, and taught to all perspective trinitarians; but it seldom is. Why is that?

“As it was the imperial power which had bestowed victory first upon the Nicene Faith and then upon Arianism, so now it was also the imperial influence which was to act decisively in favor of the Neo-Nicene faith. In 380 Emperor Theodosius issued an edict establishing the new orthodoxy. In 381 he...

The lamb is our protection from the second death. “Jesus said to her, ‘I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and whoever believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?’” (John 11:25-26, RSV) “And just as it is appointed for men to...

It’s a miracle! The 9 person Trinity is at least as mighty as the 3 person Trinity. You can’t argue against a miracle, can you? P.S. Evander’s children went to the same Christian School my daughter attended. I’m sure he had no problem signing the school’s required “I believe in the Father...

With [the Trinity, a being having three brains and three hearts] all things are possible. The big rock never stood a chance.

As long as he believes in “the deity of Christ,” good enough. Not in the Messiah’s Jewish monotheism.

Someone else told us that God chose to be nine persons. “Man, I feel revelation knowledge already coming on me here. Lift your hands. Something new is going to happen here today. I felt it just as I walked down here. Holy Spirit, take over in the name of Jesus … God the Father, ladies and...

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The Messiah’s God - the God of Israel, Yahweh - hasn’t chosen to be 3 persons, and never will. Now let’s talk about your deity. Could your deity choose to be more than 3 persons? If not, why not? If so, how do you know your deity hasn’t already chosen to do so and hasn’t told you about it yet?

“Permanent still, therefore, stood faith in the Creator and in His Christ; manner of life and discipline alone fluctuated. Some disputed about eating idol sacrifices, others about the veiled dress of women, others again about marriage and divorce, and some even about the hope of resurrection...