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Yes. Even with the Messiah and the saints reigning in the kingdom on earth, there will be a final rebellion. The only thing left to deal with is the issue of mercy or no mercy. Eternal torment = no mercy. If that what the passage is teaching us?

The choice set before us is life or death. Existence or extinction / non-existence.

Unbelievers will live during the 1000 years too. After that, only believers will be with God and with the Messiah. Unbelievers will cease to exist. They will vanish in smoke and be ashes under our feet.

So only the flesh of Jesus died for you. Jesus died for me. God didn’t die.

All men will spend eternity on the renewed / restored / new earth with God and with the Messiah.

Thanks. My question is, Did God die? Some trinitarians say yes. Some trinitarians say no. But what I want to know is if you say yes or if you say no. If Jesus is God / the second person of the Trinity and if Jesus / God / the second person of the Trinity died then it logically follows that...

God died for our sins? On more than one occasion I’ve been confronted by angry trinitarians, shaking their finger in my face and shouting, “Repent or you will die, sinner! God died for your sins!” It’s boorish behavior, but is it good theology or bad theology?

Do you believe God died @RLT63? Do you believe the second person of the Trinity died? Some trinitarians do. Some trinitarians don’t. Do you?

Yes. So do I. Do we affirm two Gods? Yes, says Heraclides. No, say I. Worship the one God and worship the messianic King, of which David is a type (1 Chronicles 29:20).

I remember as a child saying with the other children in my Sunday School class, “If it’s good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me.” I don’t know if that’s something our teacher taught us or not. Maybe from a children’s song we learned to sing? I don’t know. Maybe it’s just something we...

What is the benefit of having for our God the only one whom Jesus has for his God?

All gifts that are, including Jesus. I received a perfect gift from my parents when I graduated. Chevrolets weren’t raining down from the sky.

James 1:17

Jesus will raise us up as he is returning to the earth.

I’m disappointed to hear you say that. To be sent from above, to be sent from heaven, is to be sent from God.

God. The origin of Jesus is in the womb of his mother. Jesus. P.S. When will Jesus raise us up?

How did we get here? One day in the classroom, I asked students how we got to trinitariansism when Christianity began in Judaism. A trinitarian student replied, “The Church delivered it to us.” That’s a brilliant answer; solidly grounded in history. Theology in the making is messy. Theology...

I understand “firstborn of all creation” to be speaking of the new creation.

Who is the God of deliverances? Introducing Eliphelet. Eliphalet, Eliphelet - Lockyer's All the Men of the Bible - Bible Gateway

Are you familiar with Gregory of Nyssa @RLT63? Most Protestants aren’t. He’s another incredibly important person in the post-biblical formulation of the doctrine of the Trinity. If you aren’t familiar with him, it’s well worth your time to learn about him. Listen to what he says. He’s going to...