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  1. Christian Believer

    After the coming of Christ there is only one prayer for Christians

    Yes I agree, my mistake. Wrong forum. I'll move it. But maybe not all bad. Since you guys are helping people with prayers, it is good for you to know this information. Thank you
  2. Christian Believer

    After the coming of Christ there is only one prayer for Christians

    @Cassandra, @dev553344, Not to turn this into an argument. I'll ask one last time. Please, please, I beg of you, with all love and respect, please look at the 4 points I made in my last reply. Look close at the Bible references details. Jesus was very specific with His teachings and spent time...
  3. Christian Believer

    After the coming of Christ there is only one prayer for Christians

    If you see the real meaning of the words in this prayer, you would change your position. If you are truly “seeking God and His kingdom” Matthew 6:33 by going back to the source, the Bible, then I beg you to look close at my explanation points, complete with Bible references. But if you’re only...
  4. Christian Believer

    After the coming of Christ there is only one prayer for Christians

    So called "Christians" today go in all kinds of unchristian directions to find a prayer to pray, and ignore the one and only prayer that Christ taught us. Matthew 6:9-13 Jesus said: This then, is how you should pray: Our Father who are in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your...
  5. Christian Believer

    Catholic issues

    @Marymog said: No CB, I did not like YOUR website that you use to promote YOURSELF and what YOU believe. It is the usual Catholic bashing that I have seen hundreds of times before and there are hundreds if not thousands of websites like yours. I do appreciate that you have no advertisements and...
  6. Christian Believer

    Why do Catholics adore, worship and deify Mary so much?

    @theefaith How does your answer relate to what I said? At this point I'll leave. Matthew 10:14.
  7. Christian Believer

    The Biblical Basis for Catholic Distinctives

    @BreadOfLife Yes I fully agree. The bread in the Lord's Prayer and the bread in the Eucharist is the same. It's not either/or. This is very consistent with Jesus' teaching. My whole point is, that churches don't clarify this. And I think it is crucial enough that they should, and should stress...
  8. Christian Believer

    The Biblical Basis for Catholic Distinctives

    @BreadOfLife Sorry that's not what I meant. The sentence I wrote was misleading. I did not mean you said that! I'll try that post again here; I don't want it butchered because I'm making good points: @BreadOfLife, you make good points, but not enough for us to just run with it as you're...
  9. Christian Believer

    Why do Catholics adore, worship and deify Mary so much?

    Hello @Jim B I really like your attitude about this. Well because I am exactly the same way :). I know people keep referring everybody to a variety of other links, but I am going referring you to mine because it is exactly in line with what you're saying. And has uncovered a lot of deficiencies...
  10. Christian Believer

    The Biblical Basis for Catholic Distinctives

    @BreadOfLife These are good points, but not enough for us to just run with it as you're saying. Because if we're wrong, we're missing a very crucial truth. If the "bread" in the prayer is indeed His body, it would be a truth that is just as center-stage as the crucifixion of Jesus itself! And...
  11. Christian Believer

    The Biblical Basis for Catholic Distinctives

    "Not sure how that's possible. Eating His flesh is eating His flesh - not simply praying about it." @BreadOfLife But in an earlier post you said the "bread" in the prayer, "could mean His Body". The "bread" in the prayer, meaning His body fits perfectly. Because this sentence then becomes so...
  12. Christian Believer

    The Biblical Basis for Catholic Distinctives

    Sorry post went in wrong; must be something I did. Here it is again. @Illuminator I do agree with you 100% about the "bread". But the Catholic church again took this into many unintended directions. God's one and only focus is the redemption plan, and how to execute it in the new covenant, to...
  13. Christian Believer

    The Biblical Basis for Catholic Distinctives

    @BreadOfLife Thank you. So if it means Eucharist, then we can equally receive the body of Jesus either by reciting this prayer in our hearts, or by eating the actual bread during communion in the church? It would be the same?
  14. Christian Believer

    The Biblical Basis for Catholic Distinctives

    @BreadOfLife, @Illuminator We may have some things we agree on. What does the word "bread" mean in the Lord's Prayer in Matthew 6:9-13? Is it "bread" = "earthly needs"? This is not a trick question. And I don't aim to take the discussion off track.
  15. Christian Believer

    Why do Catholics adore, worship and deify Mary so much?

    @theefaith God entrusted the Jewish Levites with old-covenant law. They started out executing it perfectly. Then in the days of Jesus, they failed to recognize Him as Messiah. And their high-priest Caiaphas personally pushed His crucifixion. Human spiritual deterioration at its best...
  16. Christian Believer

    The Biblical Basis for Catholic Distinctives

    I'll try, as it is difficult to explain a misunderstood doctrine for hundreds of years, in a few lines. Otherwise we'd just be misunderstanding and attacking each other 2 lines at a time. God saw that Mary was blessed among women, and gave her a big role - deliver Jesus to earth in order to...
  17. Christian Believer

    The Biblical Basis for Catholic Distinctives

    Hello @BreadOfLife I was born and raised Catholic. And I also did a lot of seeking God in the scriptures on my own later in life. I am now 70, and have come to see many things much clearer thanks to the wisdom God gave me. I am now non-denominational; simply an unbiased Christian. I do expose...
  18. Christian Believer

    The Biblical Basis for Catholic Distinctives

    https://www.realbiblestudy.org/we-are-christians Hello @Illuminator, I apologize if I offended you personally; that was not my intention. I love God, and I love all people. I do strive to look at all this in a generic way, not with an “us and them” attitude. I am truly seeking God as Jesus...