Why do Catholics adore, worship and deify Mary so much?

[Pearl]

I agree.
The church remains holy,,,any church (institution).
But humans have ruined every one.

I think I may be beginning to believe in non-denominationalism.

HUmans/Christians are the Church.

 

[Christian Believer]

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

@theefaith
How does your answer relate to what I said?
At this point I'll leave. Matthew 10:14.

 

[GodsGrace]

I think this debate can be settled quite easily.

For all those who think that icons and statues are idolatry, they should keep believing that and move on.

For the rest of us that go to churches where icons and statues exist, we know that we’re not praying to a literal painting or statue so we move on too.

Everybody’s happy. Problem solved.

Could you make your way to Belaruse?

 

[theefaith]

@theefaith

God entrusted the Jewish Levites with old-covenant law. They started out executing it perfectly. Then in the days of Jesus, they failed to recognize Him as Messiah. And their high-priest Caiaphas personally pushed His crucifixion. Human spiritual deterioration at its best. High-priest, Pope, Patriarch, Bishop... Same.

2Kings 18:3-4 [King Hezekiah] "did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, just as his father David had done. He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles. He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had been burning incense to it."
Sound familiar? Moses showed them the way to God, but several generations later they decided to worship the bronze snake! Whatever each person meant when "burning incense to": worship it, ask it to intercede for, etc..

Human spiritual deterioration at its best. Humans are influenced by the world around them Matthew 13:22.

lk 1:32-33 no end

 

[theefaith]

It doesn't! Jesus is the one and only Savior.

Christ and his church are one!
Christ continues his work of redemption thru his church he founded on Peter and the apostles
Acts 9:4 eph 5:32
Ez 36:25-27
Mk 16:16 acts 7:36-38

 

[theefaith]

How does the CC save souls?

Christ and his church are one!
Christ continues his work of redemption thru his church he founded on Peter and the apostles
Acts 9:4 eph 5:32
Ez 36:25-27
Mk 16:16 acts 7:36-38

 

[theefaith]

Could you make your way to Belaruse?

or maybe images are not forbidden only idolatry and worship of images

 

[theefaith]

It the wonderment that is not resolved, thus the question of the OP....Why?

The scripture teaches to not make images.

Where does it say so?

Not bow down to them or their images. The wonderment is WHY does the catholic church promote, do, make images of Mary, bow down themselves to the images, call on her name?

bowing is no sin, only worship of anything other that God

Why expressly teach, preach, do....the exact opposite of what Gods says?

EX 20:5
[5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

idolatry is forbidden yes

 

[Taken]

idolatry is forbidden yes

Is idolatry forbidden was not the question.

 

[Jim B]

Interesting to hear the How...

The short answer: read your Bible.
The longer answer: "For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. The one who believes in him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God." John 3:16-18

Notice that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. Notice that Mary is not mentioned here or anywhere else as being part of salvation.

 

[Taken]

Christ and his church are one!

Why would men build buildings for men to gather.
Dedicate those buildings to God, as a House of Prayer and Worship unto God....
Then fill those buildings full of Statues, Idols, call out the name of those Statues and Idols, and bow down before those Statues and Idols?

 

[theefaith]

@theefaith
How does your answer relate to what I said?
At this point I'll leave. Matthew 10:14.

Christ and his church are one!
Acts 9:4 eph 5:32
Christ continues his work of redemption thru his church he founded on Peter and the apostles
Ez 36:25-27
Mk 16:16 acts 7:36-38

 

[Pearl]

Christ and his church are one!

But not all those who call themselves 'Church' are actually Church. There is only one way to become part of the Church and it isn't by being Catholic.

 

[theefaith]

Why would men build buildings for men to gather.
Dedicate those buildings to God, as a House of Prayer and Worship unto God....
Then fill those buildings full of Statues, Idols, call out the name of those Statues and Idols, and bow down before those Statues and Idols?

not bowing down to worship

but as examples of holy saints
Godly men and women filled with his spirit and grace

 

[Pearl]

not bowing down to worship

but as examples of holy saints
Godly men and women filled with his spirit and grace

You need to understand that Saints can't be created by the Vatican. Saints can only be created by Jesus as all who receive him by repentance and spiritual re-birth go from being sinners to become saints. Not elevated by man after death but established by God in this life.

 

[Moriah's Song]

not bowing down to worship

but as examples of holy saints

It's not how we see it nor how you see it; it's how God looks down from heaven and see's what you are writing that is heresey.

 

[Cassandra]

You need to understand that Saints can't be created by the Vatican. Saints can only be created by Jesus as all who receive him by repentance and spiritual re-birth go from being sinners to become saints. Not elevated by man after death but established by God in this life.

Oh Pearl, this is excellent!

 

[Pearl]

Oh Pearl, this is excellent!

Thanks Cassandra, who saints really are is often misunderstood. I just wanted to make it clear.

 

[theefaith]

But not all those who call themselves 'Church' are actually Church. There is only one way to become part of the Church and it isn't by being Catholic.

mk 16:16

 

[theefaith]

You need to understand that Saints can't be created by the Vatican. Saints can only be created by Jesus as all who receive him by repentance and spiritual re-birth go from being sinners to become saints. Not elevated by man after death but established by God in this life.

Christ and his church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32

apostles have the same mission power and authority as Christ Jn 20:21-23 even to judge and forgive sins and be the light of the world!