“The Law of the Spirit of Life”

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Ordained Chaplain
Oct 12, 2011
United States
Every Word from promise to warning that GOD , CHRIST and the HOLY men of GOD left us in that bible , IS FOR OUR GOOD .
thus let us not alter it , but rather take heed unto it and hit those trenches . Its all out battle for the souls of men and
satan knows HOW TO LIE . CLING TO CHRIST , FOR IN HIM we overcome and are able to resist the lies of satan and his peoples .
Like what you said here! If you think about it, those who should be saved will be saved, and not a one will be lost. God knows all who will be saved, and nothing will interfere with this; though believers are often delayed from spiritual growth but never hindered. It's good to know that God will not let the saved be ultimately deceived (Mat 24:24; Mar 13:22).

It is utter ignorance not to accept Christ, though Israel will be brought to believe in Christ, but it will be to late for son-ship. They will not enjoy calling God their Father but will only continue to be a "people of God." One must believe in Christ before He comes again, to gain heaven. Israel will inherit the New Earth, and the Christians the New Heaven.
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Apr 2, 2022
Durban South Africa
South Africa
The born again Spirit is in union with God's Spirit, for eternity.
So, there is no sin found there.

The born again are "seated in heavenly places", "in Christ", and there is no sin found there.

So, Johann,.......What you are confusing....... is the carnal mind (the old man of the flesh) with the born again Spirit.

So, when you speak about a "christian" sinning, you have to make the literal distinction between what is the Born Again Spirit, and what is the mind of the flesh that is carnal at all times, that is "crucified with Christ" and Paul told you to "reckon it DEAD".

So, the Spirit, that is born again, is this..

= "As CHRIST IS< so are the born again in this world"'.

See that? There is no sin found there, and that is how the Born again exist., always.

And notice the born again are become "the righteousness of God, in Christ"......and there is no sin found there.

But the MIND, that is un-renewed, is the same mind that is in the old carnal man of the flesh, YET< because the Spirit has been "circumcised" apart from that old man of the flesh, Colossians 2:11......= because the old man is crucified with Christ......they are NOT "One" any longer.

This is why a born again Christian is not a Saved sinner, as the Born Again Spirit is "one with God".....a NEW CREATION..... having received "the righteousness of God, in Christ".

So, when you read a verse that says "being now made FREE FROM SIN", and you read how...."= God made Jesus to be SIN FOR US">.... "US" is the born again........when you learn this reality, as revelation, then you'll understand these 2 verses.

Romans 4:8

2 Corinthians 5:19

2 CORINTHIANS—NOTE ON 5:21 This verse is one of the most important in all
of Scripture for understanding the meaning of the atonement and
justification. Here we see that the one who knew no sin is Jesus Christ (v.
20) and that he (God) made him (Christ) to be sin (Gk. hamartia, “sin”).

This means that God the Father made Christ to be regarded and treated as
“sin” even though Christ himself never sinned (Heb. 4:15; cf. Gal. 3:13).

Further, we see that God did this for our sake—that is, God regarded and
treated “our” sin (the sin of all who would believe in Christ) as if our sin

belonged not to us but to Christ himself.

Thus Christ “died for all” (2 Cor.
5:14) and, as Peter wrote, “He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree”
(1 Pet. 2:24). In becoming sin “for our sake,” Christ became our substitute
—that is, Christ took our sin upon himself and, as our substitute, thereby
bore the wrath of God (the punishment that we deserve) in our place (“for
our sake”).

Thus the technical term for this foundational doctrine of the
Christian faith is the substitutionary atonement—that Christ has provided
the atoning sacrifice as “our” substitute, for the sins of all who believe (cf.
Rom. 3:23–25).

The background for this is Isaiah 53 from the Greek
(Septuagint) translation of the Hebrew OT, which includes the most lengthy
and detailed OT prophecy of Christ’s death and which contains numerous
parallels to 2 Cor. 5:21. Isaiah’s prophecy specifically uses the Greek word
for “sin” (Gk. hamartia) five times (as indicated below in italics) with
reference to the coming Savior (the suffering servant) in just a few verses—
e.g., “surely he has born our griefs” (Isa. 53:4);

“He was crushed for our
iniquities” (Isa. 53:5); “the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all” (Isa.
53:6); “he shall bear their iniquities” (Isa. 53:11); “he bore the sin of many”
(Isa. 53:12).

In a precise fulfillment of this prophecy, Christ became “sin”
for those who believe in him, so that in him we might become the
righteousness of God.

This means that just as God imputed our sin and
guilt to Christ (“he made him to be sin”) so God also imputes the
righteousness of Christ—a righteousness that is not our own—to all who

believe in Christ.

Because Christ bore the sins of those who believe, God
regards and treats believers as having the legal status of “righteousness”
(Gk. dikaiosynē). This righteousness belongs to believers because they are
“in him,” that is, “in Christ” (e.g., Rom. 3:22; 5:18; 1 Cor. 1:30; 2 Cor.
5:17, 19; Phil. 3:9).

Therefore “the righteousness of God” (which is
imputed to believers) is also the righteousness of Christ—that is, the
righteousness and the legal status that belongs to Christ as a result of Christ
having lived as one who “knew no sin.” This then is the heart of the
doctrine of justification: God regards (or counts) believers as forgiven and
God declares and treats them as forgiven, because God the Father has
imputed the believer’s sin to Christ and because God the Father likewise
imputes Christ’s righteousness to the believer. (See further notes on Rom.
4:6–8; 5:18; 10:3; 10:6–8; see also Isa. 53:11: “the righteous one, my
servant, [shall] make many to be accounted righteous”)

This is how I understand it @Behold, unless you want to add something.