“We Will Not Have This Man to Reign Over Us”, The Root of Rebellion

[bdavidc]

And he said to him, ‘Out of your own mouth I will judge you, you wicked servant.

You are quoting Luke 19:22, but you are ignoring its context. Jesus was speaking of a servant who failed to carry out his master's instructions. The servant claimed his master was harsh, and the master used his own words to expose his failure to act (Luke 19:20-23).

Now explain how that applies to anything I have said. My post concerns those who reject Christ's authority, just as the citizens declared, “We will not have this man to reign over us” (Luke 19:14). Jesus distinguishes those rebellious citizens from the servants entrusted with his money.

You cannot simply quote the master's rebuke of the wicked servant and apply it to me without showing how my words or actions correspond to that servant's wrongdoing.

Where have I rejected Christ's authority or contradicted His Word? Show me from Scripture.

Otherwise, you are taking a verse out of its context to make an accusation you have not proven.

 

[Ziggy]

There is another time I find the title Nobleman, and that is when Jesus is back in Cana where he turned the water into wine.
And that Nobleman was a commander I think. And he didn't want Jesus to come to his home to heal someone, he simply said say it and it will be so. And it was.

There was a Nobleman that also got married in Cana. Maybe he went off to get himself a kingdom with his new wife and on return expected his dues.

There are many comparisons because then you could say that that is Jesus going to get his wife the church and then return.

The question is, is Jesus the Nobleman?

And what about Zacchaeus who was the only one there that got saved because he had good works even though he was considered a wicked man because he was a tax collector, or some would say traitor.

I tend to believe that the Nobleman upon return is seeking something more than when he left it.
And what does the mina represent?
In the KJV it says pound instead of minas or talents.

And I posed a question no one has attempted to answer yet.

Mary by day had one pound of ointment made out of spices and she anointed Jesus' feet and washed them with her hair.

Nicodemus came to the tomb by night carrying 100 pounds of spices for his burial.

Which is more profitable to the receiver?
But curious nevertheless.

So we have the self-righteous "I'm not a filthy tax collector making money for Ceasar like he is" .
And you have the humble servant "Lord, I share and I'm fair, even though I do my job, I do not steal or cheat or lie" .

Maybe the one who didn't rob the people like the other tax collectors did, but wanted to accuse him of his sin because he was actually an honest guy, is that wicked servant?

It depends on whose perception your looking at it through.
Is Jesus telling the parable from his perspective, that he is the one returning?
Or is he telling the parable from the people's perspective, believing that the kingdom of God was coming imminently, and they felt they deserved a reward ?

There is always 2 sides to a story. Depends on which perception you are using.
IMO

Hugs

 

[ScottA]

You are quoting Luke 19:22, but you are ignoring its context. Jesus was speaking of a servant who failed to carry out his master's instructions. The servant claimed his master was harsh, and the master used his own words to expose his failure to act (Luke 19:20-23).

Now explain how that applies to anything I have said. My post concerns those who reject Christ's authority, just as the citizens declared, “We will not have this man to reign over us” (Luke 19:14). Jesus distinguishes those rebellious citizens from the servants entrusted with his money.

You cannot simply quote the master's rebuke of the wicked servant and apply it to me without showing how my words or actions correspond to that servant's wrongdoing.

Where have I rejected Christ's authority or contradicted His Word? Show me from Scripture.

Otherwise, you are taking a verse out of its context to make an accusation you have not proven.

You are that servant.