1 Corinthians 2 is so abused

[stunnedbygrace]

I receive the HS through the word.

The word was made flesh.

 

[Nancy]

Is the war within each person won already? I would say, NOT. Some will say they have already won, but some have not yet begun to fight and some only just begun. While there is time there is war, and for whom among us is there no more time? My parents have completely their fight and are gone, but I still fight battles, perhaps daily. Why does Paul write, I die daily, if the flesh and the ways of the flesh are already finally and completely dead for anyone who is NOT already an overcomer like Jesus? When is this verse true for any one person?

"And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:" Rev 10:6

Is it not for each one when his/her allotted time in finished without regard to any possible end of mankind as a whole?

Exactly, that's why I say we have daily battles in a war that has already been won, in eternity...?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

No Spirit directly working on the subject.
And no there are no more spiritual gifts to help edify the church.

Are you saying the Spirit does not help our infirmities; making intercession for each of the members of His body according to the will of God? Romans 8:26-28 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. [27] And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. [28] And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

 

[bbyrd009]

The command to preach to all the world was given right before the crucifixion.

They were aware that they were supposed to preach to Jew and Gentile alike.

actually imo nothing could be much further from the truth, and the way we are had on that one is to turn "proclaim" into what we understand as "preach" now, that ego-building device that puts wolves between you and Christ, see. Just Like Taken's "declare," and whatever, even "proclaim" turned into "profess," none of these terms are strickly wrong imo, however they have been warped out of all valid meaning, we testify of ourselves now, see, we declare ourselves wise and we say that we know, and then go and also make "proclamations" when we are not aware that we are doing that, later, that completely invalidate our earlier "professions."

Which btw fairly obviously go hand-in-hand with "beliefs" too I guess, we profess our beliefs, instead of Proclaiming Good News by not saying a word with our mouths, not realizing that what other vv say about running our talk-holes is doing to us.

iow everything is perfect there, see, bc the more you talk the more you reveal about your heart, right? And when you say "I love Jesus" and then "I hate Muslims" or even "all Muslims are lost," (and Need What I Have to Say, by implication), without finding the other vv about saying, we'll be contradicting Scripture all over the place w/o even realizing it I guess. For this you get Spiritual Atheists I guess, and we smear them bc we don't get the Two Sons message

which don't get me wrong ok guys, I am not trying to change this dynamic even a little bit, bc it makes me into a geni-us who can see around corners or whatever lol, when all i'm doing is copypasting your snip into google and adding "bible" on the end and scanning down a list of vv to see what your deterministic statement, profession, is violating. And it is always, always, always going to be violating some Scripture, as demonstrated by the truth that you cannot extract a single Absolute Truth from Scripture, unless you maybe slit your eyes or blink a lot, same as the

Islamophobics barking "SHARIA LAW! SHARIA LAW!" Muslims will kill us all! Who cannot say a single offense committed on them by the thousands of Muslims who live next door to them, mostly all "apostate" too btw, mostly all embracing our going to secular courts against each other now too, but practicing Sharia when they want to, to.

Every time you hear/read a Sharia LAw attack, trust that some new "arbitration" nightmare is prolly being foisted on you; I guess we cant even sue Amtrak or any transportation carrier now either, you sign an arbitration agreement when you buy a ticket? NArf but Sharia LAw is coming to get you, right

 

[bbyrd009]

The apostles understood it.

They sent out 60 disciples to assist in the work.

sigh, so please Quote this if you would, ty, bc no they did not either ok, no offense meant

 

[bbyrd009]

Prophecy said the gospel would be preach to the whole world before the rapture.

now yur just totally making crap up I guess, i'm in rapture right now! well, I was yesterday anyway.
And you have already been "caught up" I guess, too, see, harpazoed.
"Caught Up" still retains a perfectly valid definition, in our cliché I guess

 

[bbyrd009]

So it seems pretty clear from the resurrection on the mission was to preach to everyone.

dont even get me started on missions lol, Jesus what a bunch of smug pantywaists
thank God looks like India is finally ready to start prosecuting, like the ppl wanted 200 years ago. Puerto Rico and a few others, too, S American countries. The overthrowing democratically elected governments prosecution will have to wait a while, but dont kid yourself ok, it's coming

 

[bbyrd009]

The good news of human redemption through Jesus Christ.

well as a general statement, that no one can really dispute or do much of anything with except subjectify, I cant disagree ok, yes.
Unfort that gets us all the way to Nehushtan, and why are Christians so unlike Christ?
or I guess "fortunately" I mean, that is a good thing I guess

 

[bbyrd009]

I receive the HS through the word.

but again wadr that is so subjective as to be useless? See ya just anthropomorphize "HS" and then lose sight of what "Word" means, change that around a little, and next thing you know you are getting a literal Visit by Some Angelic Guy via Reading the Bible, and we are not gonna rest until by God we even have some Visual Evidence of this that we can All See with our Two Eyes right

so then receiving the the Spirit gets turned into this occasion for celebration right in the moment instead of an epiphany that causes us to mourn and cry and confess and rebound, and celebrate later. Bc receiving the Spirit just toads the wet sprocket at first lol, It is The Restrainer, and who enjoys being restrained?

"Man bro, wth is wrong with you? Did someone just dump coals on your head or something?"
"Ah, I just received the Holy Spirit"
is more like how that should go I guess

 

[bbyrd009]

I receive the HS through the word.

so then receive the Spirit by the Word, amen!

 

[bbyrd009]

Ps 119:172 all thy commandments are righteousness.
Acts 17:30. Command all men everywhere to repent
Acts 10:13. Whosoever shall call in the name of the lord shall be saved.
Etc...
It takes more than belief to work righteousness

Word, ty, which is imo why all of the instances of Have Faith in Scripture are being turned into believe;
bc the first one we have to do with our hand, but the second one we can do with our mouths

 

[bbyrd009]

Yes Paul also said that what was written aforetime was written for our learning.

man, imo you have found a big thing, if you found all writing is given for instruction, correction, etc, amen

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Word, ty, which is imo why all of the instances of Have Faith in Scripture are being turned into believe;
bc the first one we have to do with our hand, but the second one we can do with our mouths

Could you expound on this? Maybe define what you think is the diff between believe and have faith?

 

[bbyrd009]

What is a “12 apostle”.

well, Judas was, too right. Was Paul an Apostle? Not a "12 Apostle," right?

I believe they were all guided into all truth.

well maybe, but that is kind of evading the fact that you cannot really Quote too much of that, or that Judas was "all" guided into all truth, too, i guess; Judas sinned, Judas confessed, Judas took his own life rather than rebound, cursed bc he hung from a tree, gave up his life for his friends the wrong way maybe, spilled his guts, but hereiam agreeing with you i guess? Judas spilled his guts meaning he made it obvious that his agenda was what we would call Zionist now, a literal king on a literal throne of David wearing a literal crown, right, just what Christians mostly all want right now today!

Of course that is occluded, a little bit, not much, but imo see what happens there, in our telling, too; anyone in Judas' place, witnessing the miracles, would obviously not be blind to Christ's powers. Ergo a scenario in which Judas might fully expect Jesus to use those powers if He was backed into a corner, say, becomes apparent?

And if you just play with the phrasing a little, the truth becomes obvious imo, "Judas took money to force Jesus onto a literal throne, fully believing that that is what would happen, and ended up funding a field of blood, a graveyard for the destitute" or whatever. i have a pitcher of a certain neighborhood corner in Flint with a "church" on every corner, one of them brand new, all closed when the money ran out, wanna see it? Bc it's coming to a theater near you i guess, prolly already has?

 

[bbyrd009]

Could you expound on this? Maybe define what you think is the diff between believe and have faith?

bc the first one we can do with our mouths, but the second one we have to do with our hands

 

[bbyrd009]

The word was made flesh.

pick up your cross and follow Me
I said 'you are to be elohim'

I mean unless we wanna burn incense to Nehushtan the rest of our lives, and watch our "churches" all burn, a pleasing aroma to God ok

 

[stunnedbygrace]

bc the first one we can do with our mouths, but the second one we have to do with our hands

You are saying that to believe means to just speak and to have faith means you have to ...put your money where your mouth is, so to speak?

But because men say they believe but then prove themselves to be liars who don't really believe, does not therefore mean that to believe and to have faith are different things. It just means that men are liars...

 

[bbyrd009]

I only say that the "war is already won meaning spiritually and in God's view. Not IRL.

hmm. Walk out that door, no cash or spares, goto another town, stay in one house, and eat what they feed you imo, and you are either going to get hip or die, starve to death prolly. Now are you going to struggle along the way? As in 'try to drive, keep tryna drive, keep tryna lead, preach, profess, testify, lecture?' Maybe not, maybe you are not codependent like me, maybe you are smarter than me, I wouldn't doubt it. IRL is where the war is already won, as above, so below, even you have yet to sweat any blood in your struggle ends up meaning more like a tongue-in-cheek kind of interp, in the context of our washing the outside of the cup, wherein we rend each other for "sins" that are not sins at all! Go and marry a whore already lol, and unclench on the appearance of sin imo. Do what you want and reap what you sow, and then stop sinning if some action causes harm, that's great imo. But to like stop smoking, or some other "bad" thing, bc of how other ppl perceive it? Suicide, imo

I tell you that I still smoke cigarettes even though I don't really even want to any more, I smoke 5 or 6 a day, always go outside, keep some h2o2 handy to eliminate the smell, mostly to detect hypocrites sneaking into my Church! stupid, granted

Did ya get an Apple or a lemon ? (I-Pad)

ah, it's an older ipad with no hours that sat in a closet for ten years, generally acts ok I guess, but does get weird. "isn't" instead of "is" a lot, autocorrects when you don't want but also prints words that are not words, just weird to me. Really an awesome device though I guess, i'm just too old to be (complaining about free amazing electronics) lol

 

[CNKW3]

Correct! But it's NOT about YOUR righteousness by the Law!!
It's about His Righteousness, as a Gift through the vehicle of His Holy Spirit.
.
That's why it's so important to understand Rom. 8:9.
Will you comment on that scripture?
Probably not! You haven't replied to my post about KJV- Mat. 5:19-20 either.

Rom 8:9 says that the Spirit of God dwells in you and that the Spirit of Christ dwells in you. It does not say how. You read that and say it is literally the Spirit dwells in you. There are more passages that say Christ and the father dwell in you. But you know Christ does not literally dwell in you. The Spirit dwells in you when you allow his word to be the guide for your life.
Let the Bible explain. Here are parallel passages....
Ephesians 5:18-19 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

Colossians 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

In the above parallel passages we see the same thought. He is saying the same thing in a different way. In one we are to be filled with the spirit. In the other we are to let the word dwell in us. He is teaching the same thing. How is one filled with the Spirit? When they let the word dwell in them. This is the Bible explaining and being it’s own best commentary. The Spirit doesn’t dwell in you unless you allow the word to be your guide.
Ok, how’s that?

Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
When you read Mt 15 you find that the Pharisees went about to establish there own righteousness through the doctrines of men. 15:8,9.
In order for your righteousness to exceed theirs you need to obey God and not man made doctrine. The Bible says throughout that we are not to turn to the right or to the left. So, your righteousness (or the means by which someone is made righteous) should be greater then the Pharisees (who used their own man made means for righteousness). Meaning....believe in what God says and not man. If the “pastor” tells you that salvation is by faith plus nothing, instead of following false man made doctrine, you need to follow what the Bible actually says about salvation if you want to enter the kingdom of heaven. The “sinners prayer” won’t do it.

 

[CNKW3]

well, Judas was, too right. Was Paul an Apostle? Not a "12 Apostle," right?

well maybe, but that is kind of evading the fact that you cannot really Quote too much of that, or that Judas was "all" guided into all truth, too, i guess; Judas sinned, Judas confessed, Judas took his own life rather than rebound, cursed bc he hung from a tree, gave up his life for his friends the wrong way maybe, spilled his guts, but hereiam agreeing with you i guess? Judas spilled his guts meaning he made it obvious that his agenda was what we would call Zionist now, a literal king on a literal throne of David wearing a literal crown, right, just what Christians mostly all want right now today!

Of course that is occluded, a little bit, not much, but imo see what happens there, in our telling, too; anyone in Judas' place, witnessing the miracles, would obviously not be blind to Christ's powers. Ergo a scenario in which Judas might fully expect Jesus to use those powers if He was backed into a corner, say, becomes apparent?

And if you just play with the phrasing a little, the truth becomes obvious imo, "Judas took money to force Jesus onto a literal throne, fully believing that that is what would happen, and ended up funding a field of blood, a graveyard for the destitute" or whatever. i have a pitcher of a certain neighborhood corner in Flint with a "church" on every corner, one of them brand new, all closed when the money ran out, wanna see it? Bc it's coming to a theater near you i guess, prolly already has?

Yes Paul was an apostle.