Rich R
Well-Known Member
I quoted a couple of very straight forward verses that say only the Father is God. I can understand that perfectly fine. Very simple declaration.Very simple you need to answer one question first. Is Jesus Christ God or not? If you say yes, then we simply need to realize that God is One God. If our minds are too small to comprehend how God could have planned to come to earth before the world began, and yet also still be God even though a part of Him was in a human body then so what? No one says we need to know it all right now. When God became a man and lived in time and space and a body He was Jesus. Jesus limiting Himself did and does not limit God outside of time and space and this world. As Jesus said, "I and my Father are one"
Trying to make Jesus, who is NOT the Father, is why the church has to say God is too big to comprehend. But the scriptures themselves declare something decidedly different:
Eph 3:14-19,
14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
This looks like we can comprehend God. No need to make up totally illogical doctrine and then say, "take it by faith..." There is no problem for a son and a father being two decidedly different and separate individuals. The problem comes when we say a son and father can be the same person. To get around that though, they just say, "oh...they are 3 persons with one essence." Not only is that nowhere to be found in the scriptures, but it is a complete non-sequitur, hence the necessary directive to, "take it by faith."15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.