A Blood-Soaked Path Through History

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BreadOfLife

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Sort of like the tribal battles between Spain and England right? Like when the Spanish Armada sailed to dethrone that arch heretic Elizabeth 1 with the view to set up a Catholic monarch with the promise of 1,000,000 crowns to Philip by Pope Sixtus V on condition of a successful landing. Nothing to do with the church eh. Of course the same could be said of those nobles and villains who plotted to kill Elizabeth's nephew, the evil James 1 who sponsored the KJV translation of the Bible. The fact that Guy Fawkes and his friends were Catholic, and James and the government Protestants, was entirely coincidental right? Nothing to do with the church. All purely political, and the sole responsibility belonging to individual self-willed fanatics with misplaced loyalties. God forbid that the RCC should even dream of uniting with the state in establishing church goals and ambitions! No such concept could be further from the truth. The church a political minded entity that would dare to use political and worldly ploys to advance spiritual goals? Never! People who think such things are no more than conspiracy theorists and history revisionists. Liars, charlatans, who should have done the homework when attending school. These same folk like to blame the church on other wars also. Like the 300 years feud in Ireland that even in our lifetime cost hundreds of lives. Like the ongoing family arguments in the former Yugoslavia when the Ustasi led by that Catholic (ooops) Pavelic with the support of Cardinal Stepinac controlled Croatia and incited hatred and persecution against the Moslems, Orthodox Serbs and Jews. Tribalism. Nothing to do with the church.
Are there Catholics is history who did some bad things?
YUP.

Are there Protestants in History who did some equally bad things?
YUP.

Are their CHURCHES responsible for their actions?
NOPE.

Your accusations are as stupid as those who blame the Catholic Church for the Jewish Holocaust because Hitler used to be a Catholic. TRULY asinine . . .
 

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"Everyone" knows?? Really??
Then this should be EASY for you to substantiate.

Show me some documented proof that the POPE "sparked" the Rwandan Genocide.
Show me some documented proof that the POPE sparked "millions" of murders in Mexico.

I can't WAIT to read your historically-researched response . . .
The article is plain and simple "Your Pope Leader" admits this Genocide was a part of his Catholic Church.

The Truth Is Well Established.

Why do you think thousands have left the Catholic Church.

They aren't blind to the truth.
 
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The Papacy killed only thousands? This list which is but a partial account of the total number of casualties reports on millions, not thousands.

There is still no comparason. So what that they killed somany. They are dead, there is nothing that can be done for the dead.

Ranting about the evils of a belief is equal pointless.

How would you react to an atheist droning on and on about the evils of Christianity and particularly what ever bit you belong to?

Would it make you an atheist, i think not.
Yey you think that posting endless accusations of RCC wrongsis going to make a follower of RCC into a member of some other church.

Sorry all that pointing out errors, wropngs, falsehoods does is make the believer in that system of believe dig their heels in.

Try a conversation about Jesus and whathe has done, it is more likely tofocus the attention on something positive and may cause a change.
 

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The article is plain and simple "Your Pope Leader" admits this Genocide was a part of his Catholic Church.
The Truth Is Well Established.
Why do you think thousands have left the Catholic Church.
They aren't blind to the truth.
Yup - so the documented evidence that the POPE sparked the Rwandan Genocide should be EASY to find.
I'm STILL waiting . . .

The Pope can apologize for the actions of individual Catholics until the cows come home - but that doesn't mean that the Church is responsible, Einstein.
 

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sa·dist
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Sadism involves deriving pleasure through themselves or others undergoing discomfort or pain. The opponent-process theory explains the way in which individuals not only display, but also enjoy committing sadistic acts. Individuals possessing sadistic personalities tend to display recurrent aggression and cruel behavior.[3][4] Sadism can also include the use of emotional cruelty, purposefully manipulating others through the use of fear, and a preoccupation with violence.[5]

Theodore Millon claimed there were four subtypes of sadism, which he termed Enforcing sadism, Explosive sadism, Spineless sadism, and Tyrannical sadism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadistic_personality_disorderv

A forum sadist parallels the definition.

There is renewed interest in studying sadism as a personality trait.[4][12] Sadism joins with subclinical psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism to form the so-called "dark tetrad" of personality.[4][13]

"Popes killed millions" is a sadistic statement.
 
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There is still no comparason. So what that they killed somany. They are dead, there is nothing that can be done for the dead.

Ranting about the evils of a belief is equal pointless.

How would you react to an atheist droning on and on about the evils of Christianity and particularly what ever bit you belong to?

Would it make you an atheist, i think not.
Yey you think that posting endless accusations of RCC wrongsis going to make a follower of RCC into a member of some other church.

Sorry all that pointing out errors, wropngs, falsehoods does is make the believer in that system of believe dig their heels in.

Try a conversation about Jesus and whathe has done, it is more likely tofocus the attention on something positive and may cause a change.
You don't get it. For 1500 years the RCC has been relentlessly seeking to fulfill her most cherished ambition... power over all Christendom. Today she is beginning to realise that the dream is possible as protestants by their droves are now switching sides. No longer is the papacy viewed with the suspicion and caution that marked previous generations. Your post is an example of that. A few apologies here, a change in tactics there,a slight tweak in policy in one place, a minor adjustment in PR in another and POOF! All ofa sudden we have a church that is presented to us as a beast of an entirely different nature than history declared, do we are led to believe she is now a truly Christan church with our best interests at heart, all light and love and peace.
We are not buying it. We don't believe the beast has changed at all. The leopard like beast cannot change her spots. Underneath she is still a killer. And she will kill again. The war she began against the saints isn't over. And neither is the protest against that war.
 
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Are there Catholics is history who did some bad things?
YUP.

Are there Protestants in History who did some equally bad things?
YUP.

Are their CHURCHES responsible for their actions?
NOPE.

Your accusations are as stupid as those who blame the Catholic Church for the Jewish Holocaust because Hitler used to be a Catholic. TRULY asinine . . .
The promise of a million crowns to Philip 2 of Spain on landing in England in order to establish a Catholic monarchy once again is reflective of church policy... Not the actions of a few bad apples in an otherwise healthy bag. Persecution by government's against heretics and Jews etc was ordered by the church which sees her role as having dominion over all state Power. If a state Power refused to execute heretics the leaders, kings, Queens etc were classed as heretics. Just like Elizabeth 1. Steps were then taken to replace them. By the church using the sword of the state. Again, church policy. Not the actions of a few individuals.
 
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We don't deny crimes that can be proven, but you don't prove or document anything. Popes have apologized for bad things that happened centuries ago on numerous occasions, but that's not good enough for you. You rant hate and lies and pretend they are documented. For the 10th time, where is your evidence? How can I reject what you are unable to give?
You are so sick, you probably find this entertaining:


So you remain angry because you never got your family dysfunction issues resolved, and to this day you blame everything on the Church. Projection and displacement.
The crimes of the Papacy are well documented historical accounts in history and a fulfillment of prophecy. It is the institution that was predicted to arise within the church of Christ and persecute horribly His followers who refused to conform to her brand of paganized Christianity. I don't post anti-papal information just for the sake of being subversive - it is intended to wake up both Catholics and Protestants to the reality that the Antichrist is not Emperor Nero, as first taught by Jesuit Alcazar which became Jesuit Preterism, nor is it some evil guy who will come during the "last seven years of tribulation", as first taught by Jesuit Ribera which became Jesuit Futurism. Stop denying the millions of deaths the Papacy is responsible for perpetrating.
 
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The crimes of the Papacy are well documented historical accounts in history and a fulfillment of prophecy. It is the institution that was predicted to arise within the church of Christ and persecute horribly His followers who refused to conform to her brand of paganized Christianity. I don't post anti-papal information just for the sake of being subversive - it is intended to wake up both Catholics and Protestants to the reality that the Antichrist is not Emperor Nero, as first taught by Jesuit Alcazar which became Jesuit Preterism, nor is it some evil guy who will come during the "last seven years of tribulation", as first taught by Jesuit Ribera which became Jesuit Futurism. Stop denying the millions of deaths the Papacy is responsible for perpetrating.
For the 20th time, you claim "well documented historical accounts" but fail to cite any. Monty Python's Flying Circus is not a historical account.
Be sure to check under the bed and in the closet for hiding Jesuits.
 

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There is still no comparason. So what that they killed somany. They are dead, there is nothing that can be done for the dead.

Ranting about the evils of a belief is equal pointless.

How would you react to an atheist droning on and on about the evils of Christianity and particularly what ever bit you belong to?

Would it make you an atheist, i think not.
Yey you think that posting endless accusations of RCC wrongsis going to make a follower of RCC into a member of some other church.

Sorry all that pointing out errors, wropngs, falsehoods does is make the believer in that system of believe dig their heels in.

Try a conversation about Jesus and whathe has done, it is more likely tofocus the attention on something positive and may cause a change.
I' glad to see you have acknowledged the evils of the RCC, thousands others have also, and left the evil!
 

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Yup - so the documented evidence that the POPE sparked the Rwandan Genocide should be EASY to find.
I'm STILL waiting . . .

The Pope can apologize for the actions of individual Catholics until the cows come home - but that doesn't mean that the Church is responsible, Einstein.
That means the hundreds of Catholic pedophile priest are not responsible either?

You live in a different world than earth!
 
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And you have YET to list any . . .
Dead Bread, the pages of history are open for review to anyone with a library card or a broadband connection. Do you realize how ridiculous you look to anyone reading your denials of mass persecution and murder by the Papacy? Your sad devotion to the Synagogue of Satan.
The article is plain and simple "Your Pope Leader" admits this Genocide was a part of his Catholic Church.

The Truth Is Well Established.

Why do you think thousands have left the Catholic Church.

They aren't blind to the truth.
Truth7t7, Dead Bread's strategy is to loudly condemn the validity of everything that condemns the actions of the papacy. Satan's emissaries have long used this tactic and it is still widely used today in the secular world - evolutionists won their debates and advanced their agendas by loud ridicule of their religious opposition; political campaigns often result in the guy covered with the most mud losing; even campus debates are successfully shut down by the out of control antics of those who are as blind as papists when it comes to historic and prophetic facts. But rest assured, everyone is only a few keystrokes away from discovering the truth about the centuries long murderous regime of the papacy.
 

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For the 20th time, you claim "well documented historical accounts" but fail to cite any. Monty Python's Flying Circus is not a historical account.
Be sure to check under the bed and in the closet for hiding Jesuits.
epostle1, I simply cannot accept the criticism of what I and others provide as authoritative historic evidence of the papal murderous regime from someone who considers the most authoritative source on Earth to be the Bishop of Rome speaking "ex cathedra" - a likely homosexual leader of a global pedophile network who claims to be God, wears a fish hat in homage to the pagan god Dagon, claims to be "the creator of his Creator", and claims the power to forgive my sins, and claims to be "king of heaven, of Earth, and of Purgatory" (since the Bible knows nothing of Purgatory, I guess I'll allow him to be king of that).
 

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Dead Bread, the pages of history are open for review to anyone with a library card or a broadband connection. Do you realize how ridiculous you look to anyone reading your denials of mass persecution and murder by the Papacy? Your sad devotion to the Synagogue of Satan.

Truth7t7, Dead Bread's strategy is to loudly condemn the validity of everything that condemns the actions of the papacy. Satan's emissaries have long used this tactic and it is still widely used today in the secular world - evolutionists won their debates and advanced their agendas by loud ridicule of their religious opposition; political campaigns often result in the guy covered with the most mud losing; even campus debates are successfully shut down by the out of control antics of those who are as blind as papists when it comes to historic and prophetic facts. But rest assured, everyone is only a few keystrokes away from discovering the truth about the centuries long murderous regime of the papacy.
But you never produce anything from the pages of history. You keep pounding the same drum. Your empty rhetoric is obvious to anyone reading this thread. You have never provided any scholarly evidence because it doesn't exist. You claim it's there, which is your strategy of repetition, but you NEVER produce any.
If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.
If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. If you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes truth. If you repeat a lie many times, people are bound to start believing it.

Paul Joseph Goebbels Adolf Hitler's Propaganda Minister in Nazi Germany.

Looks a lot like phony man, doesn't it?​
 

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But you never produce anything from the pages of history. You keep pounding the same drum. Your empty rhetoric is obvious to anyone reading this thread. You have never provided any scholarly evidence because it doesn't exist. You claim it's there, which is your strategy of repetition, but you NEVER produce any.
If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.
If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. If you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes truth. If you repeat a lie many times, people are bound to start believing it.

Paul Joseph Goebbels Adolf Hitler's Propaganda Minister in Nazi Germany.

Looks a lot like phony man, doesn't it?​
It is you who lie by falsely insisting that no proof has been submitted. And before you go throwing around Nazi propagandist garbage, you should know that Hitler's regime studied the tactics of the Jesuits and modeled his SS after it.

The Jesuit Hand in Nazi Germany ~ No Man Regarded
 

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