I swear. Some of you probably think a place called "Heaven" exists on the Klingon planet of Kronos. I wonder how many years it took Jesus to slowly drift up there (as they watched Him ascend)….. But, if you actually do believe angels climbed up and down from Heaven on a ladder..... well, who knows what you believe.
It is not on the fictional planet of Kronos. Yet it is beyond our 1st (atmosphere) and 2nd Heaven (sun moon and local stars are).
Look at the texts with me, Willie T. It will be an interesting study for all.
Yet Heaven (3rd) is a real place, a real world, a place from which Jesus came and returned. There is a real throne there. A garden, rivers, trees, angelic beings, animals, etc.
We know that Jesus ascended (in the second time) 10 days before Pentecost. We know that at Pentecost Jesus was anointed as Great High Priest in Heaven by the Father, and was represented in the outpouring of the Holy Ghost, see Heb 7:26; Psa. 133:1-3; Act. 2:1-4,33; Rev. 5:6. Therefore we know it took less than 10 days for Jesus to arrive, as Psa. 24 declares that Jesus was travelling home to those real eternal gates to the eternal city, New Jersualem, the 'Mother' (above) of us all. New Jerusalem acts like Noah's ark for the righteous in Rev. 20. A big 'ship'. Which is where satan then rips the idea and twists it for things like the atheist religion of Star Trek (think about it, Captain James T(iberius) Kirk. Captain is a leader like Jesus. James was the name of the 'leader' of the Jerusalem Council. Tiberius was the name of the Roman Emperor under which Christ Jesus died. Kirk is another spelling for Church, see scotland, ireland, etc. Leonard Nemoy was a kabbalist, and a perv, he painted naked women in his own house with his wife present (look it up).)
In our own trip to this place with Jesus (Jhn. 14:1-3), it will take exactly 7 days, one full cycle. Leviticus and other places so tell us.
The scriptures also speak of the "opening" of the Heavens in several places.
The "Ladder" is Christ Jesus. His one arm takes hold of the throne of Deity, and his other, takes hold of us. Jhn. 1:51. Yet, there was a place which Jacob said was the "Gate" of Heaven. See Gen. 28:17.
God told us to consider the Heavens. Even Orion is mentioned therein and the 7 sisters, the Pleiades (7 stars of Rev. 1:16,20; Amo. 5:8), Arcturus, and more.