A solution to the race problem on the force.

[Truth OT]

I do believe that if black officers are deployed against black perpetrators, that it will bring down to zero the possibility of crimes of prejudice against perpetrators by the officers in question.

However, such a thing might be considered to be racial profiling by those who are opposed to the idea; and so it would probably never get off the ground. Nevertheless I believe that it is a valid solution to much of the problem because of the fact that it annihilates prejudice as a reason for crimes of passion by those who are in authority: if the opposers to the idea would realize that it is indeed a valid solution and that the negative outweighs the positive in it..

If the prejudice was based exclusively on individuals, then maybe, just maybe you'd have a let to stand on here. However, the issue is bigger than the individual, it is mores a systemic issue about policing as well as the justice system itself, it's not just about policemen.

 

[marks]

I understand how that would perhaps help on one level, but I wonder if it could lead to a bigger divide between blacks and whites - the heart of the matter needs to be dealt with. I have seen many videos of Police just lashing into the black people they have been arresting, usually the person is already on the floor, but the thumping and aggression showed in a physical way is just way over the top- in a few videos they officers are black. It use to be like that over here many decades ago - police could ‘ hit ‘ those who they were arresting and ge away with it- it wasn’t so much a black or white issue, more a release of aggression. Thankfully our laws changed.
Why do the police feel that they need to hit people so hard, for what appears to be no valid reason. Also it’s just the male officers- it’s as if they are merely releasing their own frustrations and using their power in a personal way. They obviously do not see the person they are hitting ( sometimes it is women ) as being of much value.
Doubt there is an easy solution to the problem - but it won’t change unless those higher up start taking responsibility for the problems.
Rita

Not that this makes it right, but sometimes officers are responding to violence done against them before the cameras started rolling.

I think we need lines in the sand, and intolerance for those who cross those lines. Both directions.

Much love!

 

[Rita]

It is virtually impossible to tell what is truly going on in the USA, there are so many videos now, conveying so many different things - we have moved form endless headlines about the coronvirus to continuous headlines about the riots, race and the politics behind it all - it’s a mess.
I have no idea what my views are anymore because there are just so many issues intertwined with everything.
Are the riots coming under control at all ?
I have heard that four officers have now been arrested and charged, and that one has gone from 3rd degree murder ,to 2nd degree.
Rita

 

[Truth OT]

But really, since it is discrimination that causes it to be that 2.5 times the black people are likely to be arrested; and not that there are more black criminals because of the way that they bring their children up,

Wow, there's a LOT to unpack here. First, how do "THEY" bring up "Their" children? Are you making the case that there is an inherent criminality that's promoted in the black culture of America?

I think that it would be quite expedient to deploy black officers to situations where black criminals are the perpetrators.

Why put the responsibility on the community being policed as opposed to placing the "burden" of fairness on the the entity empowered to enforce? Doesn't matter the color of the officer when the community doesn't trust law enforcement, the legal system, or the judicial system. There's a level of trust that must be earned or they'll forever be major discord.

 

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Why do the police feel that they need to hit people so hard, for what appears to be no valid reason.
Rita

The law is not complicated for the public at Large.

IF and WHEN a Police Office "Asks, Orders, Give a person A Directive"....
Obey the Officer.

Pull over...Stop...step back...Dispurse...leave the area...hand me your ID...show your Hands...keep your hands on the wheel...step out of your vehicle...walk to the back of your vehicle...walk to the road shoulder...sit on the curb...raise your hands in the air...put your hand behind your Back...lie on the ground face down...sit in the police car....etc.

A Police Office never knows what a person at any given moment MIGHT do.
A Police Officers Number One Concern is for His OWN Safety in any situation, whether dealing with another Person, stray Animal, electrical wires dangling on a hwy., a trailer load dumped on a hwy., etc.

All the preliminary Directives listed Above, (and a person who Obeys...or a Person who does Not) gives the Officer an Immediate Notice he is either dealing with a "cooperative or Uncooperative person."

It is Not rocket Science. Do as you are told, and you should have No Issue.
(Yes there are bad / Corrupt apples in all Works places)...and there is legal recourse afforded people who Do the cooperative thing and then treated Wrong.

If a person is uncooperative at the get-go...they SHOULD "EXPECT"...to be treated more sternly and forceably!

Being young, old, male, female, rich, poor, citizen, illegal, race, Religion, unknowing of the language or laws, being high on drugs, is Not an Excuse. Under the Law, everyone is the Equal.
That is a fact^.

However we know, unscrupulous men and women also sit in seats of honor and DO undermine the Law with a Flood of Unconstitutional Laws...making "special laws" for the elderly, men, women, children, blacks, homosexuals, poor, wealthy...
WHY...is there some notion these people do not fall under the Law as a person, and instead require "special laws" like animals, insects, plants?

Just sayin...

 

[Agios]

It is virtually impossible to tell what is truly going on in the USA, there are so many videos now, conveying so many different things - we have moved form endless headlines about the coronvirus to continuous headlines about the riots, race and the politics behind it all - it’s a mess.
I have no idea what my views are anymore because there are just so many issues intertwined with everything.
Are the riots coming under control at all ?
I have heard that four officers have now been arrested and charged, and that one has gone from 3rd degree murder ,to 2nd degree.
Rita

It's the media, they sensationalize everything. They want power and money, they are the biggest influencer of all in the US. Don't believe everything you hear coming from the media. They are divisive, exaggerate, make stuff up, you can't trust what they report.

The one thing that does not get brought up because then you are deemed a racist if you speak of it, but if you do a crime.... you might get shot and killed. Stop doing crime!

Yet, George Floyd's death is a tragedy, he did not deserve what happened, we have been praying for his family and for the salvation of all involved.

 

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It is virtually impossible to tell what is truly going on in the USA, there are so many videos now, conveying so many different things - we have moved form endless headlines about the coronvirus to continuous headlines about the riots, race and the politics behind it all - it’s a mess.
I have no idea what my views are anymore because there are just so many issues intertwined with everything.
Are the riots coming under control at all ?
I have heard that four officers have now been arrested and charged, and that one has gone from 3rd degree murder ,to 2nd degree.
Rita

Charges are one thing.
Proving is another thing.
Sentencing is another thing.

The Police Officers have already BY the Public at Large and Media been; Charged, Decided Guilty and Convicted.

I find it appalling they were Fired...Before an investigation, and court Ruling.

Guilty UNTIL Proven Not Guilty...is the MOB rule mentality.

Astounding how many people criticize the MOB, yet Stand with them in pronouncing Guilty Verdicts, before an investigation and Fact gathering has even been completed.

 

[Agios]

Charges are one thing.
Proving is another thing.
Sentencing is another thing.

The Police Officers have already BY the Public at Large and Media been; Charged, Decided Guilty and Convicted.

I find it appalling they were Fired...Before an investigation, and court Ruling.

Guilty UNTIL Proven Not Guilty...is the MOB rule mentality.

Astounding how many people criticize the MOB, yet Stand with them in pronouncing Guilty Verdicts, before an investigation and Fact gathering has even been completed.

This is the way though, the media convicts, the media votes, the media influences so many people. It is their god, amazing. I didn't realize this until about a year ago. lol

 

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This is the way though, the media convicts, the media votes, the media influences so many people. It is their god, amazing. I didn't realize this until about a year ago. lol

Glad you wised up. Many people are still under delusion.

It's sensationalism.
Not a Secret PEOPLE are impatient, demand everything be quicker, faster, instant.

The Media, Politicians, Mobsters, etc. have learned and become proficient at Trickery and Deception.

Flash a Headline...who needs to read an article? Who needs to see if it is some peons opinion or a fact...? It's right there in big bold letters...it must be true ...Right? LOL

Most of the exasperating 24-7 "news" is more like 24-7 repeating over and over Opinions...turned into a brain-washing technique of hearing the same Opinions over and over, all of a sudden becomes a fact.

Brings back a memory of the scarecrow in the wizard of oz.

 

[Rita]

It's the media, they sensationalize everything. They want power and money, they are the biggest influencer of all in the US. Don't believe everything you hear coming from the media. They are divisive, exaggerate, make stuff up, you can't trust what they report.

The one thing that does not get brought up because then you are deemed a racist if you speak of it, but if you do a crime.... you might get shot and killed. Stop doing crime!

Yet, George Floyd's death is a tragedy, he did not deserve what happened, we have been praying for his family and for the salvation of all involved.

The media over here is just as bad - universal problem unfortunately. Xx
Rita

 

[Agios]

The media over here is just as bad - universal problem unfortunately. Xx
Rita

Oh, good to know.

 

[Agios]

Glad you wised up. Many people are still under delusion.

It's sensationalism.
Not a Secret PEOPLE are impatient, demand everything be quicker, faster, instant.

The Media, Politicians, Mobsters, etc. have learned and become proficient at Trickery and Deception.

Flash a Headline...who needs to read an article? Who needs to see if it is some peons opinion or a fact...? It's right there in big bold letters...it must be true ...Right? LOL

Most of the exasperating 24-7 "news" is more like 24-7 repeating over and over Opinions...turned into a brain-washing technique of hearing the same Opinions over and over, all of a sudden becomes a fact.

Brings back a memory of the scarecrow in the wizard of oz.

This is how public schools are, too. We hear the same rhetoric, same indoctrination and now they are also under the delusion. Public schools are anti-Christ so guess what the students are?

If a person does their research is the matter of who does crimes, and takes an honest look at the data, they will see the truth. It's not what the media is spewing about this topic.

 

[Candidus]

But really, since it is discrimination that causes it to be that 2.5 times the black people are likely to be arrested; and not that there are more black criminals because of the way that they bring their children up, I think that it would be quite expedient to deploy black officers to situations where black criminals are the perpetrators.

Sorry, but the realty is, those of that RACE of people do commit more crimes! I can buy that in impoverished areas that poor Blacks cannot afford good Lawyers and representation compared to "some" wealthier Whites, and that equals more convictions unfairly, but Black "Culture" is provable to be more likely to commit a crime. Poverty is not a "cause" for crime, for crime did not go way out of hand during the Great Depression with any race. A Culture has developed over time that does not respect the Law, and does not feel bad about committing crime.

But watch.... when they show teenagers "swarming" a store in a "Flash Mob," rushing in, stealing something and running out as a group.... who do you see on video?

A). Blacks
B). Whites
C) Hispanics
D). Asians

Another "cause" of higher arrests or Black people is that police are generally where the crime is. Why would there be a large presence of Police in a neighborhood where very little crime is reported? The Police send more resources to the neighborhoods where more crime is committed.

Who do you see (the vast majority) who are burning and looting in these riots? It's not the Hispanics and the Asians! And it is not White people. People get away with crimes, sometimes for years. The statistics of 2.5X that of White people tells me that since we do not catch a large percentage of violators, that number is probably lower than what it should be!

 

[Stan B]

Or perhaps even have 1 black policeman and 1 white policeman both deployed against any perpetrators.

That would only mean systemic racism within the police department!

It is not a system that's going to work, since 46% of crimes committed in America are committed by blacks, who only constitute a mere 13% of American society. Criminal activity is merely part of black culture, like the guy who was murdered by the police few days ago, he was a career criminal who had served prison time for armed robbery, along with a multitude of drug offenses. He was high on drugs when arrested, which forced the police to use severe measures to restrain him.

 

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This is how public schools are, too. We hear the same rhetoric, same indoctrination and now they are also under the delusion. Public schools are anti-Christ so guess what the students are?

If a person does their research is the matter of who does crimes, and takes an honest look at the data, they will see the truth. It's not what the media is spewing about this topic.

Agree. And BTW, impressed by your insight, incentive and articulation given your age. Refreshing.

Glory to God,
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[Josho]

It's my understanding that this is a picture of the 4 officers involved that were fired.

3 holding him down (two were obstructed behind the car in the main video), and then the 4th standing up - guarding them...

If this is true... I'm not sure how much more ethnically diverse they could can make it than was already done in this tragic situation.

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I just heard that one of them was only on his 4th day on the job.

 

[Josho]

That would only mean systemic racism within the police department!

It is not a system that's going to work, since 46% of crimes committed in America are committed by blacks, who only constitute a mere 13% of American society. Criminal activity is merely part of black culture, like the guy who was murdered by the police few days ago, he was a career criminal who had served prison time for armed robbery, along with a multitude of drug offenses. He was high on drugs when arrested, which forced the police to use severe measures to restrain him.

Then a ratio based on percentage of whites and blacks in America would be fair, truth is neither of us know the full situation blacks face, because neither you or me are black.
(Also don't forget to include the native Americans too.)

I would think robberies and drug dealing are out of desperation, because a large portion of African Americans are poor, but it should also be noted, that a larger percentage of blacks claim to believe in God than whites, there is a far lower percentage of atheists and agnostics within the black races, they also say they take religion more seriously, they also say that they pray more, they also say they participate in scripture study and religious education more, so that would make you think most of these crimes are committed to get out of poverty, or to at least try too. Which is hard because a lot of them grow up in the poorer areas of USA. While white Americans usually grow up in areas that are better of.

Racial and ethnic composition - Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics

So how do they get out of that cycle? I reckon they need better job opportunities that will pay them well, they need to be accepted more when they apply for a job, there needs to be a way to encourage them not to join gangs, as I said most of them grow up in the poorer areas, and that means rougher streets, so maybe there needs to be more programs that work at getting them off from hanging around those streets.

Perhaps when the cycle gets broken, they will move into better areas and have better environments for their kids to grow up in, the main point though is, I think they need better job opportunities.

Many also face the same problems in Australia, whites and Asians in Australia tend to be more employed and get more better paying jobs than Indigenous Australians, there are also struggles with Africans, with Pacific Islanders being a little better of, but Indians seem to be doing well in Australia.

When it comes to verbal racism though, Asians living in Australia probably cop it the worst.

Anyway we all need to love each other no matter what someone's racial background is.