A Spirit of Unbelief

[Episkopos]

You accused me of having self confidence in my self esteem and I'm telling you you're perception is wrong. So now you come back with more accusations. Instead of bringing the word of God your answer to everything is to accuse and rebuke.

The solution is Christ in us the hope of glory....why is He in us the hope of glory and an indescribable gift? Your doctrine is just plain wrong.

Remain as you are. Claim that dew is the same as rain. Miss the scale of the salvation that is IN Christ. Your way of seeing things is way too common. It's just sad.

 

[Lizbeth]

I hope that is so. But why do you judge others outside the Body? Where do you get that kind of motivation? You have to look at what the grace is doing to you in your own self-esteem.

The ones who say..Lord, Lord...did many mighty works in Jesus name...but they forgot humility. They were not broken at the cross. They marched half-baked into battle for the Lord...but they looked down on righteousness...basic, simple righteousness. So they were surpassed in humility by those who knew nothing of grace. There is a dire warning about taking the righteousness away from the righteous (whom Jesus died to save) and then promote those who are unrighteous...just because you like the sound of their dogmatic religious stance.

I tell you this...that you need to mark your time...not from when you received grace..but from where you were broken at the cross. You need to follow Jesus to the end of yourself...at His cross.

Take your sample...that you have preserved very well..and get the full measure of grace at the throne of grace. To get there you will need to pass through the cross. That is the power that takes you out of the equation...so you can say with Paul...no longer "I".

I am not judging anyone. That is one of your fallacious accusations that you bring because you're unable to support what you are saying with God's word. And remember that Jesus said it is HIS words that will judge them on the last day. I merely share His words and do so for the same reasons He spoke/wrote them.

 

[Behold]

So when Paul says that we Gentiles being grafted into the Vine Israel..

A real student of the bible, would teach that Christians are the Bride of Christ, and go to heaven because Christ has dealt with their Sin, which is separating everyone from God.
Solve that, and Spiritual Union with God is restored by 'new Birth", = Born again... Spiritually.
This is : SALVATiON.
This is....Receiving the finished work of Jesus on the Cross, (The Gospel of the Grace of God) by Faith, ......

The bumper sticker is...."you take Christ by Faith and God takes you forever"... as born again, a "new Creation in Christ"

See that?

That is what Paul teaches as "The simplicity that is in Christ".


And Episkopos, your teaching about Salvation, is so disconnected from that...so utterly denying of Salvation as Grace through Faith......and if you understood this, if you could see what others see about your theology, you would repent of it, burn the commentaries, take down the videos, and Listen to the people here, who understand The Grace of God, as The Cross of Christ.... as the Gift of Salvation that is the GIFT of Righteousness.

 

[Episkopos]

A real student of the bible, would teach that Christians are the Bride of Christ, and go to heaven because Christ has dealt with their Sin, which is separating everyone from God.
Solve that, and Spiritual Union with God is restored by 'new Birth", = Born again... Spiritually.
This is : SALVATiON.
This is....Receiving the finished work of Jesus on the Cross, (The Gospel of the Grace of God) by Faith, ......

The bumper sticker is...."you take Christ by Faith and God takes you forever"... as born again, a "new Creation in Christ"

See that?

That is what Paul teaches as "The simplicity that is in Christ".


And Episkopos, your teaching about Salvation, is so disconnected from that...so utterly denying of Salvation as Grace through Faith......and if you understood this, if you could see what others see about your theology, you would repent of it, burn the commentaries, take down the videos, and Listen to the people here, who understand The Grace of God, as The Cross of Christ.... as the Gift of Salvation that is the GIFT of Righteousness

Keep ignoring the bible. Keep twisting doctrines to justify yourself. See how that works out.

 

[ChristisGod]

So, you also teach that Christ in you, is not actually Christ.

You literally just wrote that. "THE Christ", is "" not Christ."""

And you are podcasting this theological rot to people, and bragging about it.


Hummmmmm.

that is a big OOPS

 

[ChristisGod]

Oh, the irony.

I marvel how God keeps His ways beyond carnal understanding.

or how God keeps them from those who lord it over others with a special gnosis- gnostic , gnosticism- a speacial knowledge only given to a few, the elite, the super spiritual, those given the "higher" walk. Its what Jesus said the pharisees were like.

as you said: Oh, the irony !!!

I marvel how God keeps His ways beyond gnostic understanding.

 

[Lizbeth]

So, you also teach that Christ in you, is not actually Christ.

You literally just wrote that. "THE Christ", is "" not Christ."""

And you are podcasting this theological rot to people, and bragging about it.


Hummmmmm.

Unbelievable what he is saying. Christ is Christ. As long as it is Christ.

The devil sure is determined to try and dig out the foundation.

 

[Behold]

Keep ignoring the bible. Keep twisting doctrines to justify yourself. See how that works out.

I only stated one doctrine to you, that you are not associated with..

Paul's doctrine of "Grace through Faith", "without the deeds of the Law"....."without works'..

He uses Abraham as THE Prime example...., who "believed God and it was counted unto Him as Righteousness".... And Paul refers to Abraham as "The Father of our Faith".

So, that is what you claim is "doctrine twisting".

Its actually just the Gospel of the Grace of God that is twisting you.
Your Videos, your posts, Threads....prove it.

 

[Episkopos]

Unbelievable what he is saying. Christ is Christ. As long as it is Christ.

The devil sure is determined to try and dig out the foundation.

You are fully deceived. Christ in you is NOT the foundation. Christ is the foundation. Your foundation is YOU.

1 Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

You are not mentioned here.

You think that saying that Jesus Christ is the foundation is taking something away from YOU. And you are right. You are championing yourself.

 

[Behold]

Unbelievable what he is saying. Christ is Christ. As long as it is Christ.

The devil sure is determined to try and dig out the foundation.

Yes. and YES again.

The born again, are trusting In CHRIST... as WHY God takes us, keeps us.

Salvation.......its a GIFT.

And what Epsiskops teaches, to try to set that aside....... its really harmful to anyone who is not secure in God's Grace, as He'll have them trying to "work righteousness" as if they can be righteous by their works...
That theology is literally teaching that your works can EQUAL the Righteousness of God., or that a person can be EQUAL to CHRIST's Righteousness, by their self effort.

That is so Cross denying.

We know that we came to God as a sinner, and God takes it from there...
He had the Cross of Christ ready to go when we came as a sinner.....

Episkopos, according to His videos, posts, and Threads, is trying to do that for Himself, and that can't be done.

 

[Episkopos]

Yes. and YES again.

The born again, are trusting In CHRIST... as WHY God takes us, keeps us.

Salvation.......its a GIFT.

And what Epsiskops teaches, to try to set that aside....... its really harmful to anyone who is not secure in God's Grace, as He'll have them trying to "work righteousness" as if they can be righteous by their works...
That theology is literally teaching that your works can EQUAL the Righteousness of God., or that a person can be EQUAL to CHRIST's Righteousness, by their self effort.

That is so Cross denying.

We know that we came to God as a sinner, and God takes it from there...
He had the Cross of Christ ready to go when we came as a sinner.....

Episkopos, according to His videos, posts, and Threads, is trying to do that for Himself, and that can't be done.

What is cross-denying is the fantastically puffed up religious egos here. Rich, Western, spoiled, acting as if God gives grace to the proud...from humility to hubris.

This is all so basic...so incredibly easy to see...if you have eyes to see.

Hearing yet shall not hear. Seeing yet shall not see.

It is wonderful in its own way.

 

[Behold]

or how God keeps them from those who lord it over others with a special gnosis- gnostic , gnosticism- a speacial knowledge only given to a few, the elite, the super spiritual, those given the "higher" walk. Its what Jesus said the pharisees were like.

as you said: Oh, the irony !!!

I marvel how God keeps His ways beyond gnostic understanding.

Exactly.

Do you suppose that He'll tell us next that "God told Him to tell us what he is teaching, and if we reject His teaching, we are rejecting God'""....

Lets hope that "type" does not show up...

I recall a martyr complex type i dealt with for months on "Worthy Christian Forum".. ., back in '2020.

"Gideon".

He is a "trip" , as in head trip.

He would get upset because the real believers were against him, including the Mods and the Forum Owner, and then he'd start with the '""REVELATION>"""

He would tell us......."God came to me, in my Bedroom, and God told me a message, .... And im to go to the entire body of Christ and tell them that God said they are all lukewarm, carnal, dead faith, and God told me to wake up the CHURCH, and get them back on Course".

I asked him.... "Why did God have to Leave His Throne........He could have sent Gabriel, or an angel.....but you say that GOD HIMSELF>.. FATHER GOD, came to YOU< in your bedroom".

He was not able to explain that exactly, and finally, the mods, after months of this man's theological .madness, showed him the door.

He came here for a while...also.., to this forum.
He had a few "caught up" in his ranting for a while.

Same Cross Rejection Message.. combined with the claim that God sent Him to instruct the entire Body of Christ, as all of it is in darkness, and He was the LIGHT, sent by God, to help us all find our way back....

I wonder where He is now...... as that one is a quite a work in progress.

 

[ChristisGod]

Here is the last quick-vid taken from the latest podcast...podcast #18. I post these for your consideration. Rather than comparing my posts with what you already believe or have been taught, I ask you to compare what I say with the Bible. This video is very short, certain to not take up much of your time. There is a link provided to the full podcast in the video. :)

False dichotomy. Christians ( those born again ) are BELIEVERS not unbelievers. Believers have Eternal Life. Those who are born again have their sins forgiven by Jesus Atonement for their sins. Unbelievers ( not born again ) do not have their sins forgiven. You have conflated the two groups into one. Your argument is a strawman. Believers are in the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom of Heaven- they are one in the same Kingdom. Let not many of you become teachers for you will incur a more severe judgement. James 3:1.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Behold]

What is cross-denying

Its your theology.

See, i just showed you, in a few posts, the LITERAL Blood Atonement, that is Paul's Doctrine of Soteriology, that is the Grace of God, that is the New Covenant, that is all based on the Cross of Christ.

Your response to it, to the teaching of The Gift of Salvation, is that its "puffed up egos".

No fella, its GOD's AMAZING GRACE, and if you had it as your Theology, you'd finally be teaching some Truth.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Here is the last quick-vid taken from the latest podcast...podcast #18. I post these for your consideration. Rather than comparing my posts with what you already believe or have been taught, I ask you to compare what I say with the Bible. This video is very short, certain to not take up much of your time. There is a link provided to the full podcast in the video. :)

Your video seems to make the following point. If you don't believe what I believe then you are living in a spirit of unbelief. Comment on that please.

 

[Episkopos]

Its your theology.

See, i just showed you, in a few posts, the LITERAL Blood Atonement, that is Paul's Doctrine of Soteriology, that is the Grace of God, that is the New Covenant, that is all based on the Cross of Christ.

Your response to it, to the teaching of The Gift of Salvation, is that its "puffed up egos".

No fella, its GOD's AMAZING GRACE, and if you had it as your Theology, you'd finally be teaching some Truth.

Money, happiness, ego...and the end...eternal life. That's your false gospel.

 

[ChristisGod]

Its your theology.

See, i just showed you, in a few posts, the LITERAL Blood Atonement, that is Paul's Doctrine of Soteriology, that is the Grace of God, that is the New Covenant, that is all based on the Cross of Christ.

Your response to it, to the teaching of The Gift of Salvation, is that its "puffed up egos".

No fella, its GOD's AMAZING GRACE, and if you had it as your Theology, you'd finally be teaching some Truth.

yes its a works based salvation apart from Gods grace. Its what Paul warned against to the Galatians and said if anyone preaches any other Jesus or any other gospel let them be Anathema.

 

[ChristisGod]

Your video seems to make the following point. If you don't believe what I believe then you are living in a spirit of unbelief. Comment on that please.

Exactly- my way or the highway.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are fully deceived. Christ in you is NOT the foundation. Christ is the foundation. Your foundation is YOU.

1 Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

You are not mentioned here.

You think that saying that Jesus Christ is the foundation is taking something away from YOU. And you are right. You are championing yourself.

If Christ is not in you.

your dead in your sin.

Rom 8: 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. 10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies [d]through His Spirit who dwells in you.

 

[ChristisGod]

Money, happiness, ego...and the end...eternal life. That's your false gospel.

thats called projecting.