A Spirit of Unbelief

[ChristisGod]

If Christ is not in you.

your dead in your sin.

Rom 8: 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. 10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies [d]through His Spirit who dwells in you.

Amen !

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What is cross-denying is the fantastically puffed up religious egos here. Rich, Western, spoiled, acting as if God gives grace to the proud...from humility to hubris.

This is all so basic...so incredibly easy to see...if you have eyes to see.

Hearing yet shall not hear. Seeing yet shall not see.

It is wonderful in its own way.

yeah your right

depending 100% on christ is as you say puffed up religious ego

and you puffing yourself up is not puffed up religious ego.

where do you get your words from?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Your video seems to make the following point. If you don't believe what I believe then you are living in a spirit of unbelief. Comment on that please.

he has had that same message for years in chatroom after chatroom,

it is who he is

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Money, happiness, ego...and the end...eternal life. That's your false gospel.

there you go slandering again.

you bear false witness more than anyone I know

 

[Eternally Grateful]

thats called projecting.

its also called slandering, or bearing false witness, Which breaks the 9th command..

 

[ChristisGod]

its also called slandering, or bearing false witness, Which breaks the 9th command..

Ditto

 

[Behold]

Money, happiness, ego...and the end...eternal life. That's your false gospel.

If you pay attention to what im showing you, vs erroneously describing the "money and health" prosperity gospel.....

You would recognize that i only teach one thing, as the fulcum, the core, of my Posts, Threads, Debates..

"Lift up the Cross".
Lift up the Savior"
and "deny everything else as salvation".

See, on a forum, there is only one debate, that is up and running, always...
It has to do with.....>"how do you go to heaven, and how do you stay saved"

This is one of those constant, endless, discussions.........and often they are guised as other Titles, but, eventually it comes down to what do you believe saves you and keeps you saved,= is going to be what you believe, gets you to heaven.

And Theologically, people only have 2 choices..

They can believe that 1.) Jesus is their Salvation, or they can believe that in some regard, He started it, and 2.) they are trying to do the rest.

So, what i preach, is Pure Paul Doctrine., and this always does one thing.., and that is..... it always gives Jesus all credit due Him alone, for saving us and keeping us saved.

LOOK ::: = . "Only Jesus Saves"... and that means, after you are saved, as well as to begin with.... Episkopos

There is no earning that. There is no doing that.. There is only the fact of Jesus on the Cross, as WHY God will initially accept us and keep us forever.

John 14:6

 

[Behold]

yes its a works based salvation apart from Gods grace. Its what Paul warned against to the Galatians and said if anyone preaches any other Jesus or any other gospel let them be Anathema.

Yes, Galatians 1:8

Paul says that if a real believer is preaching the "self saving" message, or the Gospel of self effort, then that believer is :

"Bewitched"

"in the Flesh"

"Fallen from Grace".

 

[CadyandZoe]

he has had that same message for years in chatroom after chatroom,

it is who he is

Thanks for the observation. It's called a "short" video, so I assumed he didn't have adequate time to develop his point.

 

[amigo de christo]

Huh? What confidence? What self-esteem? The truth is the only thing that gives me the strength and hope to go on. I feel pared back to the bare bones sometimes, or almost there, not even knowing how to "be" alive, because there is not much left of the old false me that I used to rely on to engage with this life.

But it is like what Jesus said to the Pharisees.....you err because you don't seem to know the word of God or His power and how He works in the lives of His children. The Lord knows both how to comfort as well as how to instill His fear, and He reminds and gives us the thing that we need when He knows we truly need it. All working together for our good.

ALL this man is trying to do is to get the focus off the fact that we must BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST .
Epi may as well be the right hand of franics himself .

 

[amigo de christo]

Slippery? Hmm, I'm not the one slinking away from the word of God. And it's HIS word you are fighting against.

YES INDEED dear sister . He negates the fact one even has to BELEIVE . HE no likey that believe word at all .
But it is a word that both JESUS CHRIST and them apostels sure seem to remind folks about .

 

[Lizbeth]

YES INDEED dear sister . He negates the fact one even has to BELEIVE . HE no likey that believe word at all .
But it is a word that both JESUS CHRIST and them apostels sure seem to remind folks about .

Amen. He doesn't like the hell word either and negates that anyone will end up there....and is unable to assemble any scriptures to back up his belief. Direct contradiction of the bible since there are a lot of references and warnings about hell/Gehenna/sheol. Place of the DEAD, which the Lord promises not to abandon His own to.

(And interesting that Gehenna is where they threw the carcasses of dead animals (brute beasts), criminals and other refuse to burn...a fire that never went out but burned continually because there was a continual supply of what needed to be disposed of. A picture of "everlasting" fire prepared for the devil and his angels.)

 

[Episkopos]

Amen. He doesn't like the hell word either and negates that anyone will end up there....and is unable to assemble any scriptures to back up his belief. Direct contradiction of the bible since there are a lot of references and warnings about hell/Gehenna/sheol. Place of the DEAD, which the Lord promises not to abandon His own to.

(And interesting that Gehenna is where they threw the carcasses of dead animals (brute beasts), criminals and other refuse to burn...a fire that never went out but burned continually because there was a continual supply of what needed to be disposed of. A picture of "everlasting" fire prepared for the devil and his angels.)

Maybe that is because he thinks that hell is not an eternal destiny...that being rather the lake of fire that hell is thrown into. Maybe there is a false dichotomy that isn't biblical being peddled by the cultural believers here...namely "heaven and hell." It is....."heaven and earth".... That is a biblical comparison.

But who cares what is biblical, right? Better to judge others by human doctrines and traditions, as you do.

I think the metal band Black Sabbath did an album called "Heaven and Hell". Maybe that is influencing ya'll.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Maybe that is because he thinks that hell is not an eternal destiny.

Thats just one of his many serious mistakes

 

[marks]

Money, happiness, ego...and the end...eternal life. That's your false gospel.

I've been reading the thread, here you go with false accusations. Is that because you don't believe the admonition to put off lying? The spirit of unbelief?

The Bible tells us our words show what is in our hearts. What do false words show?

Much love!

 

[Johann]

There is a living Jesus to walk in...not just a historical Jesus to believe in.

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them you think you have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Incorrect.


Joh 5:39 The Witness of Scripture
You diligently searchG2045 G5719 V-PIA-2P Eraunate Ἐραυνᾶτε N1 theG3588 Art-AFP tas τὰς Scriptures,G1124 N-AFP graphas, γραφάς, forG3754 Conj hoti ὅτι youG4771 PPro-N2P hymeis ὑμεῖς thinkG1380 G5719 V-PIA-2P dokeite δοκεῖτε inG1722 Prep en ἐν themG846 PPro-DF3P autais αὐταῖς lifeG2222 N-AFS zōēn ζωὴν eternalG166 Adj-AFS aiōnion αἰώνιον to have;G2192 G5721 V-PNA echein· ἔχειν· andG2532 Conj kai καὶ theseG1565 DPro-NFP ekeinai ἐκεῖναί are theyG1510 V-PIA-3P eisin εἰσιν -G3588 Art-NFP hai αἱ bearing witnessG3140 G5723 V-PPA-NFP martyrousai μαρτυροῦσαι concerningG4012 Prep peri περὶ Me;G1473 PPro-G1S emou· ἐμοῦ·
Transliteration: Eraunate
Morphology: V-PIA-2P
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 2nd Person Plural
Strong's no.: G2045 (ἐραυνάω)
Meaning: To search diligently, examine.

Ye search (eraunāte). Proper spelling as the papyri show rather than ereunāte, the old form (from ereuna, search) as in Joh_7:52. The form here can be either present active indicative second person plural or the present active imperative second person plural. Only the context can decide. Either makes sense here, but the reason given “because ye think” (hoti humeis dokeite, clearly indicative), supports the indicative rather than the imperative. Besides, Jesus is arguing on the basis of their use of “the Scriptures” (tas graphas). The plural with the article refers to the well-known collection in the Old Testament (Mat_21:42; Luk_24:27). Elsewhere in John the singular refers to a particular passage (Joh_2:22; Joh_7:38; Joh_10:35).
In them ye have eternal life (en autais zōēn aiōnion echein). Indirect assertion after dokeite without “ye” expressed either as nominative (humeis) or accusative (humas). Bernard holds that in John dokeō always indicates a mistaken opinion (Joh_5:45; Joh_11:13, Joh_11:31; Joh_13:29; Joh_16:20; Joh_20:15). Certainly the rabbis did make a mechanical use of the letter of Scripture as a means of salvation.

5:39 "You search the Scriptures"

This can be a PRESENT ACTIVE INDICATIVE or a PRESENT ACTIVE IMPERATIVE. Since it is in a list of witnesses that the Jews had rejected it is probably an INDICATIVE.

Here is the tragedy of the Jewish leaders: they had the Scriptures, read them, studied them, memorized them, and yet missed the person to whom they point! Without the Spirit, even the Scriptures are ineffective! True life comes only through a personal, obedient faith relationship (i.e., Deut. 4:1; 8:13; 30:15-20; 32:46-47).

"these that testify about Me"

This refers to the OT Scriptures, which Jesus fulfills (i.e., John 1:45; 2:22; 5:46; 12:16,41; 19:28; 20:9). Most of the early sermons of Peter (cf. Acts 3:18; 10:43) and Paul (cf. Acts 13:27; 17:2-3; 26:22-23,27) in Acts use fulfilled prophecy as an evidence of Jesus' Messiahship. All but one passage (1 Pet. 3:15-16), which affirms the authority of Scripture found in the NT (cf. 1 Cor. 2:9-13; 1 Thess. 2:13; 2 Tim. 3:16; 1 Pet. 1:23-25; 2 Pet. 1:20-21), refer to the OT. Jesus clearly saw Himself as the fulfillment and goal (and proper interpreter, cf. Matt. 5:17-48) of the OT.

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen. He doesn't like the hell word either and negates that anyone will end up there....and is unable to assemble any scriptures to back up his belief. Direct contradiction of the bible since there are a lot of references and warnings about hell/Gehenna/sheol. Place of the DEAD, which the Lord promises not to abandon His own to.

(And interesting that Gehenna is where they threw the carcasses of dead animals (brute beasts), criminals and other refuse to burn...a fire that never went out but burned continually because there was a continual supply of what needed to be disposed of. A picture of "everlasting" fire prepared for the devil and his angels.)

Lambs dont let lambs follow epi or the likes . Heck lambs dont let enemies do it either . We preach JESUSCHRIST
and all sound doctrine , the only life saving , life changing gospel of truth .

 

[Episkopos]

I thank the many here who have faithfully portrayed the spirit of unbelief. I just hope you all don't get carried away and start believing what you are writing.

 

[CadyandZoe]

What happened to..."I can do all things through Christ who strengthen me?"

Paul said that of himself. And in this context "all things" refers to "everything Christ asked me to do in order to spread the gospel message around the world.

 

[Episkopos]

Paul said that of himself. And in this context "all things" refers to "everything Christ asked me to do in order to spread the gospel message around the world.

I find it dishonest that people will claim everything that Paul says of himself...like being crucified, or seated in heavenly places...and all the benefits. But when it comes to having faith like Paul...and suffering the consequence as well as experiencing the benefits...well that's just for him. Do we realize that it was the very faith of Paul that made those things we are quick to claim for ourselves possible?

Where is the faith? Where is the honesty?