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Do you believe someone can be Christian and support / defend aborting millions of unborn babies?

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    Votes: 3 10.7%
  • No

    Votes: 25 89.3%

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Doesn’t much matter, regarding the Political Party seated in the House of Representatives, the system is corrupted.

Congress was supposed to Represent and Protect the People from Infringement.
Senate was supposed to Represent and Protect the States from Infringement.
They Don’t.

The elected were supposed to Serve, go home and resume civilian life.
They Don’t. People’s fault for keeping their back-side glued.

The body of the elected were supposed to EXPELL a sitting Representative for bad behavior. They Don’t.

They have devised a SPLIT, “senior” (glued to their seats) and “junior” (newly elected) Representatives.
Seniors were supposed to show the juniors, the “protocols”, rules, schedules, etc.
What a PRIMARY “unspoken” rule ...is:
1) Yield, follow, do, support, whatever the senior Rep (of THEIR Party) from any State dictates.
(If they do not; They become “in house” black-listed, ignored, their bills rejected, and monies in the coffer for re-election with-held).
2) Majority of time, calling, texting, meeting, with wealthy (barons/foreign or domestic), business CEO’s, lobbyists: begging money for their re-election coffer....and TRADING Promises of Legislation for the money).
(If they do not; They Become “in house” black-listed, ignored, their bills rejected, and monies in the coffer for re-election with-held.)

The People at large, become FED-UP, with their Representation, Elect a new Representative, who promises to Represent all the PEOPLE....and their bills rejected, they ignored and are quickly ushered to .... get with the “in house” program and get to getting to BEG and SOLICIT “re-election” funds, and clap and Whoo Hoo, when “their senior leader” dictates their party initiatives.

Fact is: VERY FEW of the Reps Have a BACKBONE to say to the Public at Large, THAT Reps. DO NOT HAVE THE CONStItUTIONAL AUTHORITY to satisfy and create ENDLESS Agencies and Programs to satisfy the ENDLESS whims of the People.

So WHY DO the People BEG for ENDLESS Legislation and ENDLESS Programs?

Fact is: WHEN the government Reps establish Laws: UNDER THE COLOR OF LAW....to transfer the Wealth from the People to the Control of the Government....The People LESS and LESS retain their Wealth to TAKE CARE of their OWN Necessities. Once the People’s Wealth IS in the hands of the Government....The Government THEN “QUALIFIES” WHO, they will dole out other people’s wealth, (in bare scraps), to satisfy their “voters”, who will again
Vote for them, BECAUSE the “freebie” scrap check, food allowance....is better than nothing.
VICIOUS, VICIOUS, VICIOUS spiral circle, that MAKES Government the MASTER and the PEOPLE SLAVES.

The so-called “Great Re-set”...is a MASTER/SLAVE scenario on steroids, with the TWIST....Downsize the World’s Population...Some even proposing BY 95%.

So IF you want the JIST of it....LISTEN closely to WHICH governmental PARTY is Promoting What......or is Ignoring the High Rates within their jurisdiction....and is appeasing the Public with Band-Aid solutions.
Cars, Guns, Knives, Ropes, Stairs, Fuels....don’t kill people.
Abortions....Kills
Wars............Kills
Drugs..........Kills
Murder........Kills
Crimes........Kills

Products....that Stymie a healthy life.
Nutrient deficient foods...that stymie a health life.
Water...polluted and treated with poisons ‘for safe use’ pff

Pay attention to Reps who SUPPORT, wars, abortions, imported food, drugs that kill, education indoctrination, endless agencies and programs, and crimes in their district out of control.

You Stop POLLUTING....and pay no attention to the BILLIONS of barrels of Poisons and Barges loaded with Garbage the government dumps in the Oceans.
You Stop consuming DRUGS....while the Government approves Drugs to be sold on every corner.
You Stop growing your own FOOD...buy imported nutrient deficient foods...and sprayed with poisons.
Won’t Stop? Next best thing....Sterile Seeds for sale....seeds from plants will not grow a new crop.

Any which way possible, your MASTERS have multiple plans in effect, to reduce the world’s population. They say PRESERVE, They mean as long as you are useful to keep the glue on their backside.
 
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A developing fetus’ is a developing life. It is neither ALIVE nor DEAD.

A BIRTH is WHEN an ALIVE “thing” .... human, animal....even the Lord Jesus...
Comes forth out from an ALIVE “thing” .... human, animal, the Lord Jesus.

Creation....Gods Hand Forming Adam.
Creation....Gods Finished, Adam Formed.
The End.

Right? No.

Making....Adam ALIVE.
Making....God BLOWING, LIFE, “into” Adam’s Form-ED Body.

Pro-Creation....SEED of male fertilizes female SEED.
Pro-Creation....a LIFE BEGIN ‘developing’.
Pro-Creation....Gods Hand form-ing the “thing”.
Pro-Creation....Life Developed
The End.

Right? No.

Making...the Form-ed thing ALIVE.
The “thing” coming forth from the Placenta (water sac), in the womb.
The “thing” severed from the LIFE of the woman.

How boring...same ole thing...
Gods MAKING the thing ALIVE with His Breath of Life.

Gods CREAT-ED and MAK-ING....is nothing new.
A creat-ED thing, is not ALIVE, until God has accomplished the “MAK-ING”.

The “MAK-ING” is AN INDIVIDUAL receiving LIFE from God.

The “MAK-ING” is NECESSARY....unless that born thing continues to ReMAIN dependent on that umbilical cord and receive nutrients and oxygen from the female and the same umbilical cord dispose of waste.

God is CLEAR....Created and Made....is His words....and BOTH created and made establish the fullness...then He rests.

Gen 2:
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Scripture is CLEAR...Created and Made

Gen 2:
CREATED
[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
AND MADE
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

An INDIVIDUAL, is not an individual alive person, connected and DEPENDENT on a woman’s LIFE (blood).

An INDIVIDUAL, is not an individual alive person, WITHOUT connection and DEPENDENCY on Gods BREATH of LIFE.
 
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A developing fetus’ is a developing life. It is neither ALIVE nor DEAD.

A BIRTH is WHEN an ALIVE “thing” .... human, animal....even the Lord Jesus...
Comes forth out from an ALIVE “thing” .... human, animal, the Lord Jesus.

Creation....Gods Hand Forming Adam.
Creation....Gods Finished, Adam Formed.
The End.

Right? No.

Making....Adam ALIVE.
Making....God BLOWING, LIFE, “into” Adam’s Form-ED Body.

Pro-Creation....SEED of male fertilizes female SEED.
Pro-Creation....a LIFE BEGIN ‘developing’.
Pro-Creation....Gods Hand form-ing the “thing”.
Pro-Creation....Life Developed
The End.

Right? No.

Making...the Form-ed thing ALIVE.
The “thing” coming forth from the Placenta (water sac), in the womb.
The “thing” severed from the LIFE of the woman.

How boring...same ole thing...
Gods MAKING the thing ALIVE with His Breath of Life.

Gods CREAT-ED and MAK-ING....is nothing new.
A creat-ED thing, is not ALIVE, until God has accomplished the “MAK-ING”.

The “MAK-ING” is AN INDIVIDUAL receiving LIFE from God.

The “MAK-ING” is NECESSARY....unless that born thing continues to ReMAIN dependent on that umbilical cord and receive nutrients and oxygen from the female and the same umbilical cord dispose of waste.

God is CLEAR....Created and Made....is His words....and BOTH created and made establish the fullness...then He rests.

Gen 2:
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Scripture is CLEAR...Created and Made

Gen 2:
CREATED
[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
AND MADE
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

An INDIVIDUAL, is not an individual alive person, connected and DEPENDENT on a woman’s LIFE (blood).

An INDIVIDUAL, is not an individual alive person, WITHOUT connection and DEPENDENCY on Gods BREATH of LIFE.
So "it" moves for weeks but it's not alive? lol I guess partial birth abortion doesn't bother you either then, as long as you can destroy it before it takes a breath?
 
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So "it" moves for weeks but it's not alive? lol

lol...it’s a developing life, dependent on the females LIFE...NOT AN ALIVE BORN LIFE...NOT a created and made PERSON.

lol...do you expect no movement when a thing is in progress of Grow-ING?
 
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lol...it’s a developing life, dependent on the females LIFE...NOT AN ALIVE BORN LIFE...NOT a created and made PERSON.

lol...do you expect no movement when a thing is in progress of Grow-ING?
VERY unmerciful! A baby can be totally birthed and not breathing yet. It's MURDER! It's little heart beats at around 6 weeks. A little child is growing for years. Does that mean it's not alive? "It" is truly alive!

Jas 2:13 He will have judgment WITHOUT MERCY who has shown no mercy.
 
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VERY unmerciful! A baby can be totally birthed and not breathing yet. It's MURDER! It's little heart beats at around 6 weeks. A little child is growing for years. Does that mean it's not alive? "It" is truly alive!

Jas 2:13 He will have judgment WITHOUT MERCY who has shown no mercy.

I do not advocate or support abortions....and at the same time I do not Pretend an unborn form-ing thing is a Person with Gods Breath of Life.

Your means of ADVOCATING against abortion, (defining a fetus as a human person)....is just as lame as men who ADVOCATE for abortion, (as a means of birth control and downsizing the population.)

Instead of arguing over nonsense with people who do NOT support abortions.....Why not do something useful to your cause, Like ... if they are going to teach birth control in schools, advocate they must include films of fetus’ being sucked out of the womb in pieces, and partial births of killing it at the head before the body is delivered, and failed abortions where a live birth occurs and they kill it? Or start a foundation and make your own CD’s and pass them out to random females?

What are you accomplishing by arguing with people who do not support abortions? ZIP!
 
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I do not advocate or support abortions....and at the same time I do not Pretend an unborn form-ing thing is a Person with Gods Breath of Life.

Your means of ADVOCATING against abortion, (defining a fetus as a human person)....is just as lame as men who ADVOCATE for abortion, (as a means of birth control and downsizing the population.)

Instead of arguing over nonsense with people who do NOT support abortions.....Why not do something useful to your cause, Like ... if they are going to teach birth control in schools, advocate they must include films of fetus’ being sucked out of the womb in pieces, and partial births of killing it at the head before the body is delivered, and failed abortions where a live birth occurs and they kill it? Or start a foundation and make your own CD’s and pass them out to random females?

What are you accomplishing by arguing with people who do not support abortions? ZIP!
What are you accomplishing by arguing with us who are AGAINST murdering babies for $$$, who suck their thumbs, smile and kick their Mommy before they're birthed?
 
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What are you accomplishing by arguing with us who are AGAINST murdering babies for $$$, who suck their thumbs, smile and kick their Mommy before they're birthed?

You are advocating for SUPPRESSION of LIBERTY! Same as everyone else BEGS the government to CREATE Legislation AGAINST FREEWILL....

An individuals PROPERTY....
you can’t have this animal or that, you can’t grow this of that, you can’t build this or that, you can’t use this or that, you can’t, you can’t, you can’t...
YOU MUST endlessly PAY the government for the PRIVILEGE of owning your property.

An individuals CHILD...
you can’t keep them from school, you can’t raise them as you see fit, you can’t care for or teach an other’s child, you can’t, you can’t, you can’t....
YOU MUST endlessly allow the government to dictate, require their protocol for Food, Healthcare, Education, on and on.

When Individuals BEG the government to make and make and make LAWS, “under the color of Law” that infringes on an other’s FREEWILL, you are as much the Problem as any other, who does the same....MAKING the government SERVANTS....Masters!

And sadly as you have mentioned more than once....$$$...money, money, money.....and obviously a peeve of yours....
What do you care about an others $$$ ?

And really? An unborn thing wiggling around is a mystery, that it is FORM-ING? Form-ing things MOVE!

You think a seed in soil, springs forth above ground without first Form-ing, moving roots below the ground?

An others Money and Force Infringing on an others FREEWILL, is your advocation, and not appealing to me.
 
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The Bible say no such thing!
What does Jesus say about some who have already been physically born of their natural mothers?

But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead. Matt 8:22

After Adam and Eve died, who or what had Life before Jesus brought it?

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Gen 2:17
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Gen 3:6


The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly" John 10:10
Who has had Life before believing? as per...
Joh 11:25Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
Joh 11:26And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
 
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Doesn’t much matter, regarding the Political Party seated in the House of Representatives, the system is corrupted.

Congress was supposed to Represent and Protect the People from Infringement.
Senate was supposed to Represent and Protect the States from Infringement.
They Don’t.

The elected were supposed to Serve, go home and resume civilian life.
They Don’t. People’s fault for keeping their back-side glued.

The body of the elected were supposed to EXPELL a sitting Representative for bad behavior. They Don’t.

They have devised a SPLIT, “senior” (glued to their seats) and “junior” (newly elected) Representatives.
Seniors were supposed to show the juniors, the “protocols”, rules, schedules, etc.
What a PRIMARY “unspoken” rule ...is:
1) Yield, follow, do, support, whatever the senior Rep (of THEIR Party) from any State dictates.
(If they do not; They become “in house” black-listed, ignored, their bills rejected, and monies in the coffer for re-election with-held).
2) Majority of time, calling, texting, meeting, with wealthy (barons/foreign or domestic), business CEO’s, lobbyists: begging money for their re-election coffer....and TRADING Promises of Legislation for the money).
(If they do not; They Become “in house” black-listed, ignored, their bills rejected, and monies in the coffer for re-election with-held.)

The People at large, become FED-UP, with their Representation, Elect a new Representative, who promises to Represent all the PEOPLE....and their bills rejected, they ignored and are quickly ushered to .... get with the “in house” program and get to getting to BEG and SOLICIT “re-election” funds, and clap and Whoo Hoo, when “their senior leader” dictates their party initiatives.

Fact is: VERY FEW of the Reps Have a BACKBONE to say to the Public at Large, THAT Reps. DO NOT HAVE THE CONStItUTIONAL AUTHORITY to satisfy and create ENDLESS Agencies and Programs to satisfy the ENDLESS whims of the People.

So WHY DO the People BEG for ENDLESS Legislation and ENDLESS Programs?

Fact is: WHEN the government Reps establish Laws: UNDER THE COLOR OF LAW....to transfer the Wealth from the People to the Control of the Government....The People LESS and LESS retain their Wealth to TAKE CARE of their OWN Necessities. Once the People’s Wealth IS in the hands of the Government....The Government THEN “QUALIFIES” WHO, they will dole out other people’s wealth, (in bare scraps), to satisfy their “voters”, who will again
Vote for them, BECAUSE the “freebie” scrap check, food allowance....is better than nothing.
VICIOUS, VICIOUS, VICIOUS spiral circle, that MAKES Government the MASTER and the PEOPLE SLAVES.

The so-called “Great Re-set”...is a MASTER/SLAVE scenario on steroids, with the TWIST....Downsize the World’s Population...Some even proposing BY 95%.

So IF you want the JIST of it....LISTEN closely to WHICH governmental PARTY is Promoting What......or is Ignoring the High Rates within their jurisdiction....and is appeasing the Public with Band-Aid solutions.
Cars, Guns, Knives, Ropes, Stairs, Fuels....don’t kill people.
Abortions....Kills
Wars............Kills
Drugs..........Kills
Murder........Kills
Crimes........Kills

Products....that Stymie a healthy life.
Nutrient deficient foods...that stymie a health life.
Water...polluted and treated with poisons ‘for safe use’ pff

Pay attention to Reps who SUPPORT, wars, abortions, imported food, drugs that kill, education indoctrination, endless agencies and programs, and crimes in their district out of control.

You Stop POLLUTING....and pay no attention to the BILLIONS of barrels of Poisons and Barges loaded with Garbage the government dumps in the Oceans.
You Stop consuming DRUGS....while the Government approves Drugs to be sold on every corner.
You Stop growing your own FOOD...buy imported nutrient deficient foods...and sprayed with poisons.
Won’t Stop? Next best thing....Sterile Seeds for sale....seeds from plants will not grow a new crop.

Any which way possible, your MASTERS have multiple plans in effect, to reduce the world’s population. They say PRESERVE, They mean as long as you are useful to keep the glue on their backside.
Are you okay? This rant makes no sense whatsoever.
 

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But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Gen 2:17
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Gen 3:6

AND who stopped the woman from exercising her FREEWILL? No one.
Point taken.
 
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I never thought I would ever have anything positive to say about the Dems, but as with many Americans, we have seen the Dems become champions of
LIBERTY, FREEDOM, FREEWILL


Meanwhile, the Republicans have turned against freedom, adopting the perverted ideology of the Taliban, controlling and suppressing every aspect of the lives of second class citizens like women.

If news analysis is correct, former Repubs are turning to the Dems in droves!
The idea that muedering babues is a matter of "LIBERtY & FREEDOM" for the killers is as perverse as anythig else you've claimed on this thread.

You've already been proven wrong - boh Scripturally AND biologically that the unborn are NOT humen but you keep doubling-down on this idiocy vecause you can't admit when you're wrong.
Pathetic . . .
 

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And the President's last name should be capitalized.

Almost as bad as this donor who9 comes into the plasma center where I work with a shirt that says "Joe and the Ho gotta go!" It's disrespectful and just rude.

Talked with my supervisor and he said that he has the right to freedom of speech. My supervisor is a Republican of course. I have no issues with free speech and if the shirt said Joe and Kamala gotta go I would have no issues with it. Calling the VP a ho is the issue and the guy should have at least been told to turn his shirt inside out as it is offensive.
 

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Almost as bad as this donor who9 comes into the plasma center where I work with a shirt that says "Joe and the Ho gotta go!" It's disrespectful and just rude.

Talked with my supervisor and he said that he has the right to freedom of speech. My supervisor is a Republican of course. I have no issues with free speech and if the shirt said Joe and Kamala gotta go I would have no issues with it. Calling the VP a ho is the issue and the guy should have at least been told to turn his shirt inside out as it is offensive.
I don't really like Biden as a president. But I also don't agree with bashing on people. And I see a lot of Biden bashing these days. I usually just stay out of it. God will judge man.
 

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What does this mean? Who is "ol enoch"? And the President's last name should be capitalized.
Enoch is here on the site . He left a post yesterday . And yeah i sure dont think he voted for BIDEN
Not that i can blame him or even begin to hold that against him . I would not vote for BIDEN
at gun point . But relax i didnt vote for trump either .
 
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I don't really like Biden as a president. But I also don't agree with bashing on people. And I see a lot of Biden bashing these days. I usually just stay out of it. God will judge man.
yeah i didnt captlize the name of trump either . It aint bashing to not vote for these folks nor is it bashing
to warn others not too . HERE is bashing , IF i had said or made fun of biden . You know like some folks do
about his mental state . THAT IS EVIL and its vile . Much as i would not vote for biden its evil as can be
to make fun of a man for his mental state . That should NEVER be done and i am highly ashamed of those who
mock him . I refused to vote for him due to his allegaince to satan . BUT i wont make fun of them either .
DIDNT vote for trump either .
 
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