About the modern Jew - potentially a major deception and distraction for believers

[Jack]

I fairly much have no substantive issue with your post here, suffice to clarify that God's elect are not the nation of Israel, but those individual members who believe in their Messiah and are saved.

Jesus at the second coming will not even touch Israel. We meet the Lord in the air, and so will we always be with Him. The wicked dead are not raised at the second coming. They sleep in death until the end of the millennium when the New Jerusalem comes down our of heaven, with all the saints and the Lord inside, and settles on that area we know as Israel. Then the wicked are raised to face their judgement. Fire then comes down and destroys every last one of them including Satan and all good demons. The earth is cleansed in that fire from every vestige of sin and environmental pollution. A blank canvas for...Then will Israel...us... Inherit the earth. A new earth. And a new heaven.

Jesus will not touch down on Earth in the Rapture. Christians will meet Him in the air.

1 Thessalonians 4
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.

He will touch down later in Israel and FIGHT for Israel.

Zechariah 14
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The city shall be taken, The houses rifled, And the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.

 

[covenantee]

In Israel? Are you in Israel?

In His Church? Are you in His Church?

 

[Jack]

In His Church? Are you in His Church?

I'm a Christian. Not Israel. Not trying to STEAL Israel's identity and blessings like Satan's children.

 

[covenantee]

I'm a Christian. Not Israel. Not trying to STEAL Israel's identity and blessings like Satan's children.

Israel's only legitimate identity is found in Christ. Galatians 3:16,29; 2 Corinthians 1:20

Sadly, only a remnant will find Him. Isaiah 10:22; Romans 9:27

 

[Jack]

Israel's only legitimate identity is found in Christ. Galatians 3:16,29; 2 Corinthians 1:20

Sadly, only a remnant will find Him. Isaiah 10:22; Romans 9:27

Israel is mentioned over 2500 times in the Bible. How many times have YOU been mentioned. It's a grievous thin to try to steal Israel's identity. It's a CURSE!

 

[covenantee]

Israel is mentioned over 2500 times in the Bible. How many times have YOU been mentioned. It's a grievous thin to try to steal Israel's identity. It's a CURSE!

So you think Israel's identity is found outside of Christ?

That is the ultimate curse.

 

[Jack]

So you think Israel's identity is found outside of Christ?

That is the ultimate curse.

You're not Israel, FYI! Who are you?

 

[covenantee]

You're not Israel, FYI! Who are you?

You didn't answer the question.

Is Israel's identity found outside of Christ?

 

[Jack]

You didn't answer the question.

Is Israel's identity found outside of Christ?

The God of Israel is Christ!

Matthew 15
31 So the multitude marveled when they saw the mute speaking, the maimed made whole, the lame walking, and the blind seeing; and they glorified the God of Israel.

 

[covenantee]

The God of Israel is Christ!

Matthew 15
31 So the multitude marveled when they saw the mute speaking, the maimed made whole, the lame walking, and the blind seeing; and they glorified the God of Israel.

The Scripture is inspired truth.

So is Israel's identity found outside of Christ?

Or is it found in Christ?

Which one?

 

[Jack]

The Scripture is inspired truth.

So is Israel's identity found outside of Christ?

You don't know this is Scripture???

Matthew 15
31 So the multitude marveled when they saw the mute speaking, the maimed made whole, the lame walking, and the blind seeing; and they glorified the God of Israel.

Or is it found in Christ?

Which one?

Jesus is the "God of Israel"! Satan has confused you. He hates Israel too.

 

[covenantee]

You don't know this is Scripture???

Matthew 15
31 So the multitude marveled when they saw the mute speaking, the maimed made whole, the lame walking, and the blind seeing; and they glorified the God of Israel.

Jesus is the "God of Israel"! Satan has confused you. He hates Israel too.

Why are you afraid to answer the question?

 

[Jack]

Why are you afraid to answer the question?

I don't answer to please Israel haters. I answer to please Jesus, "The God of Israel".

 

[covenantee]

I don't answer to please Israel haters. I answer to please Jesus, "The God of Israel".

So how would Jesus answer the question?

 

[Jack]

So how would Jesus answer the question?

If you don't love Jesus the God of Israel then you love Satan. I LOVE Jesus, the God of Israel, THE Creator!

 

[covenantee]

If you don't love Jesus the God of Israel then you love Satan. I LOVE Jesus, the God of Israel, THE Creator!

Still afraid to answer the question.

 

[Jack]

Still afraid to answer the question.

You don't like my Biblical answer.

 

[covenantee]

You don't like my Biblical answer.

What answer?

Here's some Bible for you and Israel.

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 Corinthians 2:14
Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

 

[Davy]

I fairly much have no substantive issue with your post here, suffice to clarify that God's elect are not the nation of Israel, but those individual members who believe in their Messiah and are saved.

You need to get it through your head, yes the nation of Israel are... part of God's election.

And I just confirmed that via what Apostle Paul said in Romans 11 about them. In 1 Kings 11 is where God said He would 'always' leave "one tribe" at Jerusalem for His servant David's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake. So good luck trying to stand up to Him and say the nation of Israel is not His elect

And all the DNA baloney proves nothing against the true bloodlines of Israel still existing, otherwise there would be no Bible prophecies about God bringing their return in final, nor even what Paul said about the time when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, and God removed the blindness He put upon the Jews.

Jer 31:35-36
35 Thus saith the LORD, Which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is His name:

36 If those ordinances depart from before Me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before Me for ever.
KJV

Those here who 'claim' to keep God's Word obviously need to read more of it, to know what our Heavenly Father has said about this matter.

 

[covenantee]

You need to get it through your head, yes the nation of Israel are... part of God's election.

You need to get it through your head that God is not a racist.

Stop trying to contort Him into one.

The elect has nothing to do with the "nation of Israel".

Under the New Covenant, the "elect" refers exclusively to the holy nation (1 Peter 2:9) of the Church.

Romans 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Colossians 3:12
Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

Titus 1:1
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

1 Peter 1:2
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

1 Peter 5:13
The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.