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Why, dont you want the truth is will your SDA doctrines, religion threw out Christ so you dont have much
BarneyFife
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Well, I have no idea what your sentence means, but I see "religion threw out Christ" which means it's just some more church hate, so:
The Church
The church is the community of believers who confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour. In continuity with the people of God in Old Testament times, we are called out from the world; and we join together for worship, for fellowship, for instruction in the Word, for the celebration of the Lord’s Supper, for service to humanity, and for the worldwide proclamation of the gospel. The church derives its authority from Christ, who is the incarnate Word revealed in the Scriptures. The church is God’s family; adopted by Him as children, its members live on the basis of the new covenant. The church is the body of Christ, a community of faith of which Christ Himself is the Head. The church is the bride for whom Christ died that He might sanctify and cleanse her. At His return in triumph, He will present her to Himself a glorious church, the faithful of all the ages, the purchase of His blood, not having spot or wrinkle, but holy and without blemish. (Gen. 12:1-3; Exod. 19:3-7; Matt. 16:13-20; 18:18; 28:19, 20; Acts 2:38-42; 7:38; 1 Cor. 1:2; Eph. 1:22, 23; 2:19-22; 3:8-11; 5:23-27; Col. 1:17, 18; 1 Peter 2:9.)
If you can spam up threads with your religion-hate, I can defend the doctrine of church
Many people have pinned their hopes on a Biden presidency. They see America from a certain perspective, and are convinced that Biden and Harris, and the party they represent, are the ones to bring their nation closer to what they envisage as a successful, prosperous, fair and just society. And of course they are fully entitled to their viewpoint.
Then there are others, no doubt at the present time bitterly disappointed, who backed Trump to the hilt, believing him and those closest to his administration capable of bringing the nation into a time of prosperity and peace, void of corruption and the threat of socialist and/or communist policies. America is divided along those lines, more or less. Not to say there weren't many who thought independents more capable of success, but I think just two extremes sum up the current situation.
to be honest, I am glad I am not in either camp. Sure, I preferred one over the other, but my peace of mind and emotional well being isn't so intimately connected to either party or either individual that my worry meters begin to break down into overload in anticipation of uncontrollable disaster and te end of the world. I am in fact, no less at peace today than I was this time 5 years ago when Obama was in control. Nor 30 years ago when Reagan was in control. Because politics has never, or will ever, be God's means by which His people are established, or His kingdom strengthened and enlarged. Two things will continue, and neither will be affected by either Trump's departure (and yes, there are some who think he is coming back) or Biden's arrival (and yes, there are some who think he'll still be arrested, along with several dozen others). Those two things are the gospel, and prophecy.
No-one is saved, or sanctified by politics. Politics may be an interesting maybe even entertaining side-show, and the curiosity of current events was the theme behind this thread, but there are more important things in life. The gospel must still be preached. Christ and Him crucified must still be revealed to people, be they democrat, republican, or other.
As for prophecy, regardless of who is administering government, God will not go into panic mode, climb down from His throne and give it to His enemy. He has not, nor will He abdicate His sovereignty just because January 20th turned into January 21st. The first beast of Revelation 13, the Papacy, will still reign over the earth, for a short time. The second beast of Revelation 13, the United States of America, through the influence and politicking of an apostate Protestant church, will still form an image to the first beast, a union of church and state and will enforce religious doctrine in line with Catholic dogma opposed to the commandments of God. That cannot be stopped. And either a republican administration or a democrat could fulfill that role. My peace lies in the fact that God still reigns. His love still endures. And His truth is still Truth.
The way to salvation is still through Jesus, the only begotten Son of God, full of grace and truth.
Then there are others, no doubt at the present time bitterly disappointed, who backed Trump to the hilt, believing him and those closest to his administration capable of bringing the nation into a time of prosperity and peace, void of corruption and the threat of socialist and/or communist policies. America is divided along those lines, more or less. Not to say there weren't many who thought independents more capable of success, but I think just two extremes sum up the current situation.
to be honest, I am glad I am not in either camp. Sure, I preferred one over the other, but my peace of mind and emotional well being isn't so intimately connected to either party or either individual that my worry meters begin to break down into overload in anticipation of uncontrollable disaster and te end of the world. I am in fact, no less at peace today than I was this time 5 years ago when Obama was in control. Nor 30 years ago when Reagan was in control. Because politics has never, or will ever, be God's means by which His people are established, or His kingdom strengthened and enlarged. Two things will continue, and neither will be affected by either Trump's departure (and yes, there are some who think he is coming back) or Biden's arrival (and yes, there are some who think he'll still be arrested, along with several dozen others). Those two things are the gospel, and prophecy.
No-one is saved, or sanctified by politics. Politics may be an interesting maybe even entertaining side-show, and the curiosity of current events was the theme behind this thread, but there are more important things in life. The gospel must still be preached. Christ and Him crucified must still be revealed to people, be they democrat, republican, or other.
As for prophecy, regardless of who is administering government, God will not go into panic mode, climb down from His throne and give it to His enemy. He has not, nor will He abdicate His sovereignty just because January 20th turned into January 21st. The first beast of Revelation 13, the Papacy, will still reign over the earth, for a short time. The second beast of Revelation 13, the United States of America, through the influence and politicking of an apostate Protestant church, will still form an image to the first beast, a union of church and state and will enforce religious doctrine in line with Catholic dogma opposed to the commandments of God. That cannot be stopped. And either a republican administration or a democrat could fulfill that role. My peace lies in the fact that God still reigns. His love still endures. And His truth is still Truth.
The way to salvation is still through Jesus, the only begotten Son of God, full of grace and truth.
Why dont you go to a catholic church than or a JW one, are they not all christians...
I'm not sure if it's the fact that they have pinned their hopes in Biden... as everyone seems to think that he won't last long and that Kamala will take over.... I think it's more that a large number of people did NOT want Trump... Just as many voted for Trump in the first place because they didn't want Hillary. America is indeed very divided... I have learned much about my neighbour to the south... Much work needs to be done... and worse than America being divided... this election has divided the Christians... and I am not sure how this will get sorted out... as many Christians have divided this election into the opposite camps of GOOD and EVIL.... and God have mercy on those who might have voted for Biden... because they are now the enemy.
Yes, there are all manner of permutations still possible. Just shows the unwavering unremitting unending permanence in the fickle nature of politics.
BarneyFife
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You mean it's okay to have a religion as long as it's not my chosen one? That'll be all right with you, then?
As you said your chosen one so what is wrong with theirs are they not all christians?? They too have church doctrines just like you. You said churchis a place where christians meet so go meet in a catholic church.. or even a JW one...
BarneyFife
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mjrhealth said: ↑
Why dont you go to a catholic church than or a JW one, are they not all christians...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean it's okay to have a religion as long as it's not my chosen one? That'll be all right with you, then?
mjrhealth said: ↑
Why dont you go to a catholic church than or a JW one, are they not all christians...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean it's okay to have a religion as long as it's not my chosen one? That'll be all right with you, then?
I knew you wouldn't give a straight answer to that one. You busted yourself. Be off with you.
Who was building the tower of Babel? The Republicans or the Democrats or both? What was God's response to the whole mess?
"Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city." Gen 11:7-8
That "city" could well be the USA as I see the USA. Some here of course as I know would disagree with that comparison, but our little man made tower, the government of these United States will not take us to heaven... will not take us to God.
And the religious got offended, because you know full well you love your religion and its doctrines care little for the truth. Church is where religious people go to practice there religions.
Leave you to your religion.
Forgot to mention, you are supposed to choose Christ.
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quietthinker
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if I knew nothing of Christianity and I heard you speak of your Christ you can be certain that your words leave nothing to attract me to him.
Yes the religious have an issue with Him since He cannot be a part of pour religion, one can have religion without Christ, and Christ without religion, it is men that make a mockery of Him,
Mat 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
Mat 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
As men do, division by religion, preach a different Christ yet claim to be christian. Christ cannot divide Himself so you must all be wrong. Religion wont save you on judgement day.
quietthinker
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As others have noted and now is reconfirmed in your post here, you don't hear what you respond to. It doesn't seem to matter to you whether the bake is of wholesome ingredients or junk, your replies are a repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat.
Hmmm, do you know what four (4) signifies in scripture?
You know what 3 is.. you like all the religious men on the forum all with your religions doctrines, demand that Christ divide Himself amongst you, but He cannot partake in a lie neither will HE divide Himself for you nor any man, you made you choice, your religion and its doctrines, your prison, is what you choose over the one who is the truth , just as the JW's catholics and all the other religions do, yes you have the right to your religion, But Christ has the right to not partake in that which is not of Him.
Would you like me to repeat it...
BarneyFife
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This isn't even logical. It's perfectly possible that there is at least one faith that preaches and teaches the truth as it is in Jesus. I hate to admit it but your droning, perpetual, arrogant, condescending, judgmental, and evil surmising has frustrated me so much that I have come to some conclusions:
- You exhibit an obsessive presumption that anyone who belongs to a communion of faith must not have received Christ as their savior.
- You refuse to contribute anything to any discussion except for some form of expression of this presumption.
- You won't even answer direct questions except to appeal to your aforementioned presumption.
- When anyone disagrees with you, you accuse them of being "offended," as if you possessed some special thing that is ordained of God and must be accepted and no one else has but you.
Bye, now.
This isn't even logical. It's perfectly possible that there is at least one faith that preaches and teaches the truth as it is in Jesus. I hate to admit it but your droning, perpetual, arrogant, condescending, judgmental, and evil surmising has frustrated me so much that I have come to some conclusions:
You leave me no alternative but to add you to my -ignore list-, something I hate to do.
- You exhibit an obsessive presumption that anyone who belongs to a communion of faith must not have received Christ as their savior.
- You refuse to contribute anything to any discussion except for some form of expression of this presumption.
- You won't even answer direct questions except to appeal to your aforementioned presumption.
- When anyone disagrees with you, you accuse them of being "offended," as if you possessed some special thing that is ordained of God and must be accepted and no one else has but you.
Bye, now.
And every relilion claims it is theirs just as you do, what makes them wrong and you right just because you love your religions doctrines more than theirs
Mat_19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
But no one wants Him, the corner stone rejected even today.
They worship me with their lips, all you do is push your religion
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