Acts 2:38 has been abandoned by Christianity

[JunChosen]

Question.
Does anything we do at all for God have spiritual value?
Giving?
Praying?
Witnessing?
Baptising?
Is there anything we can do physically that can create spiritual results?

None whatsoever! See Luke 18:28-30 and Luke 17:10

Does Acts 2:38 clear our conscience via remission of sins?

Acts 5:31
"Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to GIVE repentance to Israel [all believers] and forgiveness of sins.
Words in parenthesis are mine.

To God Be The Glory

 

[mailmandan]

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Peter was a remission of sins cult because of baptism in Acts 2:38?

Or, are the Acts 2:38 skippers in these last days the cult(which claim to be part of the bride and do not take the bridegroom's name)?

This has already been explained to you numerous times.

 

[JunChosen]

This has already been explained to you numerous times

But you probably neglected to emphasize that Jesus spoke in parables and without a parable He did not speak.

Mark 16:16 is difficult to explain except spiritually as can be seen in vvs 17,18.

To God Be The Glory

 

[Truther]

None whatsoever! See Luke 18:28-30 and Luke 17:10



Acts 5:31
"Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to GIVE repentance to Israel [all believers] and forgiveness of sins.
Words in parenthesis are mine.

To God Be The Glory

Are all believers required to be baptized to be saved per Jesus’ statement in Mark 16:16?

 

[Truther]

This has already been explained to you numerous times.

All you guys are trying to say is that Jesus meant he that believeth and is saved shall be baptized. You guys teach the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. Interesting to say the least.

 

[Earburner]

The issue of "refusing" the New Birth does not really arise in the matter of salvation. All those who repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, and it is the Holy Spirit who supernaturally regenerates the one who believes. Those who are born again submit themselves to water baptism by immersion (as practiced by the apostolic churches). In the Bible there was little or no separation between the two.

Acts chapter 2 is a critical chapter in Scripture since it describes the day of Pentecost and the results of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit and the harvest of souls. It also show how a true New Testament church was to function.

However too many have automatically assumed that water baptism is necessary to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Others have automatically assumed that those who received the Spirit all began to speak in tongues. But neither of these beliefs is correct. And to see that one needs to study the rest of Acts as well as the entire New Testsament. Baptismal regeneration is FALSE DOCTRINE.

What's necessary, in conjunction with belief in Jesus and water baptism, is to follow the words of Jesus literally in KJV-Luke 11:13, and to fully understand what Jesus' conditions are, in the nature and reality of HOW He saves us, as He reveals in KJV-Revelation 3:20.
Yes, it IS ALL ABOUT being born again of/by His Holy Spirit. KJV-John 3:3-8.
We must be born again BY the Holy Spirit.
To side step HIS procedure in any way, is to remain to be "none of His". KJV-Romans 8:8-9.

This is HOW we "make our calling and election sure". KJV-2 Peter 1:10.
Therefore, understand completely that all must recieve the literal Person of Jesus Christ Himself, aka God's Holy Spirit, BY ASKING FOR HIM to dwell within you, and not beside you!! KJV-John 14:17. In other words, Jesus Himself is the Kingdom of God/Heaven.
All of the above references, are the act of being "born again" by God.

To only just believe in Jesus, is not the completion or fulfillment of faith!
We MUST have HIS FAITH within us, and that comes by no other way, except to personally invite Him into our very own life, and thereby exchanging our life for His Life.

 

[Earburner]

^See also KJV- Galatians 2:16 and Revelation 14:12.
The faith OF Jesus (His faith) is THAT faith that is found in the fruit of the Spirit!
Galatians 5:22-24

 

[Enoch111]

You guys teach the exact opposite of what Jesus taught.

See Acts 10 & 16 to confirm that believing comes before baptism. There are other passages also.

 

[JunChosen]

Are all believers required to be baptized to be saved per Jesus’ statement in Mark 16:16?

NOT water baptism as it is a works gospel which is contrary to Ephesians 2:9! But rather the washing of regeneration set forth in Titus 3:5 which God only can perform.

To God Be The Glory

 

[JunChosen]

All you guys are trying to say is that Jesus meant he that believeth and is saved shall be baptized. You guys teach the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. Interesting to say the least.

To your estimation, what did Jesus teach?

To God Be The Glory

 

[Enoch111]

NOT water baptism as it is a works gospel which is contrary to Ephesians 2:9!

Christian baptism is NOT "a works Gospel". Where did you get that notion? Believers' baptism a commandment of Christ for those who have been saved. Ephesians 2:9 is a reference to the works of the Law (or any good deeds) in order to be justified. But Christian baptism is for those who have been justified by grace through faith, not by works.

 

[Addy]

They would walk around mountains of grace in order to find water.

The mailman made a funny... HAHAHA

 

[JunChosen]

Christian baptism is NOT "a works Gospel". Where did you get that notion?

True! Only if we are discussing the washing of regeneration set forth in Titus 3:5. Otherwise, all water baptisms however, has no spiritual value except to wash away dirt/filth from our skin. 1 Peter 3:21.

Ephesians 2:9 is a reference to the works of the Law (or any good deeds) in order to be justified.

Ephesians 2:9 is NOT easily understood by many Christians so they reference the works of the Law, or any good works to justification, they don't realize that faith/belief is given as a gift by God lest any man should boast.

But Christian baptism is for those who have been justified by grace through faith, not by works.

So tell us @Enoch111 by whose faith God's or man's? If by God then it is a gift and if by man then it is by works!

To God Be The Glory

 

[Truther]

NOT water baptism as it is a works gospel which is contrary to Ephesians 2:9! But rather the washing of regeneration set forth in Titus 3:5 which God only can perform.

To God Be The Glory

You just debunked Jesus Christ per Mark 16:16.

Poor Jesus

 

[Truther]

What's necessary, in conjunction with belief in Jesus and water baptism, is to follow the words of Jesus literally in KJV-Luke 11:13, and to fully understand what Jesus' conditions are, in the nature and reality of HOW He saves us, as He reveals in KJV-Revelation 3:20.
Yes, it IS ALL ABOUT being born again of/by His Holy Spirit. KJV-John 3:3-8.
We must be born again BY the Holy Spirit.
To side step HIS procedure in any way, is to remain to be "none of His". KJV-Romans 8:8-9.

This is HOW we "make our calling and election sure". KJV-2 Peter 1:10.
Therefore, understand completely that all must recieve the literal Person of Jesus Christ Himself, aka God's Holy Spirit, BY ASKING FOR HIM to dwell within you, and not beside you!! KJV-John 14:17. In other words, Jesus Himself is the Kingdom of God/Heaven.
All of the above references, are the act of being "born again" by God.

To only just believe in Jesus, is not the completion or fulfillment of faith!
We MUST have HIS FAITH within us, and that comes by no other way, except to personally invite Him into our very own life, and thereby exchanging our life for His Life.

Skipping water baptism is skipping being born again.

 

[Truther]

See Acts 10 & 16 to confirm that believing comes before baptism. There are other passages also.

Of course. Jesus said he that believes and is baptized shall be saved. Did you think Jesus said he that believes and it saves might be baptized?

 

[Truther]

To your estimation, what did Jesus teach?

To God Be The Glory

Jesus taught that he that believes and is baptized shall be saved. You guys need to teach that also.

 

[Truther]

For all that are posting. Jesus said he that believes and is baptized shall be saved. You all seem to be teaching he that believes and is not baptized shall be saved. The question is why?

 

[JunChosen]

For all that are posting. Jesus said he that believes and is baptized shall be saved.

Seeing that no one, no, NOT one seeks after God. Romans 3:10-11. Now tell us who will believe?

You all seem to be teaching he that believes and is not baptized shall be saved.

Remember the thief on the cross.

The question is why?

BECAUSE unlike you, we understand the true Gospel.

To God Be The Glory

 

[JunChosen]

You just debunked Jesus Christ per Mark 16:16.

Poor Jesus

Don't feel sorry for Jesus but for yourself. Your salvation is very much in question.